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Is there a specific list of IRC's deficiencies somewhere? Could we start on an IETF draft to address some of those rather than throw our hands in the air and build yet another walled garden?

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One potential problem with that is that for many IRC users, many of the "deficiencies" either don't matter or are bonuses.

Also, see https://ircv3.net/irc/

Well for starters IRC doesn't let you keep your hands warm when somebody posts a giphy and your system resource usage goes up to crypto mining levels.

I don't rely on slack at work (we use mostly emails and some skype), I'm also part of a small-ish team, so I have to ask: do people in bigger-ish teams really send gif after animated gif in their work-related slack conversations? And if the answer is "yes", what does that help accomplish?

The more your work chat resembles an attention-addiction-skinner-box social media, the higher engagement numbers it gets.

It's relatively easy to see how these engagement numbers can be leveraged as a sales tool.

1. Yes, they do. We even have a bot to post the top giphy result for a search query.

2. It's absoletely as assinine and distracting as you imagine.

The matrix protocol has already emerged as a successor to IRC that maintains backwards compatibility. It has room encryption, voice and video, and it bridges to almost every chat service in existence (including Slack, at least until now).

Matrix isn't backwards-compatible to IRC, it has bridges for IRC. Also I believe the Slack bridge uses the Slack API (not the IRC gateway) so it should still work when Slack kills the IRC gateway. But yes, Matrix is quite amazing.

https://ircv3.net

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