Wounds taking weeks to heal on skin disappear in a week inside the mouth (2013)
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But the author of the article (not Boerhaave) seems to be missing several points:
1) a wound inside the mouth is protected by tissue all about, and body temperature is maintained as well. An external wound is ~half open to the world and has no temperature maintenance on the open surface. Temperature is important for the immune system to perform.
b) concerning the phrase "saliva is efficacious in cleansing foul wounds": what Boerhaave is saying is that licking one's wounds is efficacious. He's not merely speaking of saliva floating about a wound inside a closed mouth. The common phrase "to lick one's wounds" is not a false euphemism and is not limited to animals other than humans. Licking a wound can help heal it, sucking a wound can remove material that has been inserted into a wound and can quickly route fresh blood to a wound site, aiding healing and flushing out foreign material.
https://www.quora.com/Does-licking-your-own-wound-help-heal-...
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/07/080723094841.h...
http://www.science20.com/news_releases/histatin_why_licking_...
I'm sure there are other brands or technologies that act similarly, but once I found this particular type of bandage I never had the thought of using anything else.
https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-us/all-3m-products/~/Nex...
While not an expert on this particular science, I noticed that the look of the applied bandages is entirely different. The BA bandage puffs up with moisture, while the Tegaderm visually seems as if it only creates a seal.
My personal armchair doctor explanation is that the inside of the mouth experiences a lot of small cuts, but our immune system takes care of those before they turn into larger wounds. When your immune system is weaker, or your mouth is drier, then those small wounds open into larger ones.
(I didn't actually notice that they had disappeared until I returned to milk-land, and they came back. Took another month or so to establish the link clearly, since there was 3-4 day delay between drinking milk and appearance of canker sores. Then it took another couple of years to alter my habits ...)
It seems likely, although you could test the theory by eating some raw papaya.
To talk about canker sores, I first have to talk about dental plaque. Plaque appears when both of these conditions are true:
1. your mucous membranes are saturated with nutrients (such as those in milk, or juice, or soda, or "saucy" foods) amenable to the growth of bacterial biofilms; and
2. you are dehydrated enough—or under the chronic effects of diuretics such as caffeine—such that you don't consistently produce enough saliva to reach the mucous membrane and battle the nascent bacterial colony.
(That's right: plaque may live on your teeth, but the food those bacteria consume mostly isn't food stuck to/between your teeth; it's food "in" the mucous membranes of your lips. This is why the regrowth speed of plaque seems to have no correlation to how well you've brushed your teeth—the factor is how much food they have access to, and brushing your teeth has no effect on the nutritive content of your mucous membranes.)
Canker sores, then, happen when an established plaque (bacterial biofilm) colony is pressed into a dehydrated mucous membrane, further isolating it from the reach of saliva, for an extended period. Picture, say, a dirty tooth pressed against your lower/upper lip as you sleep, with your face laying to squeeze that part of your lip around the tooth, such that saliva can't get in.
So, ways to avoid the problem:
1. brush your teeth at night (i.e. after you stop eating food.) It's more important than brushing in the morning, if you want to prevent canker sores.
2. If you're dehydrated, drink water or another substance that contains few bacteria-promoting nutrients (like unsweetened flavoured carbonated water, or even hard liquor.) If you can't—if only milk/juice/soda/beer/coolers are being served—then try to "chase" your drink with water as soon as possible. When you do, swish some of the water in your mouth as if it was a mouthwash. Ensure your mucous membranes themselves are getting hydrated.
3. Get enough vitamin C. Subclinical hypovitaminosis C ("pre-scurvy") causes the linings of your mucous membranes to weaken, making it easier for rough spots on your teeth to cause micro-abrasions in them, which is where bacterial biofilms get in. But make sure you're not "getting enough vitamin C" by drinking orange juice when you're dehydrated!
I've been reading about xylitol lately, a sweetener found in sugar free gum. From what I can tell, it could potentially help with cavities because it can help regenerate dentin. Not to mention gum seems to be generally helpful for removing waste from teeth. Is this something you've heard about?
Which reminds me of a rant:
You know what doesn't do either of those things? Any mouthwash you can buy in the mouthwash aisle.
Ask a dentist about mouthwash. They'll recommend it—but only because the alcohol temporarily shrinks your gums, which allows a toothbrush and/or floss to scrape plaque out that was embedded deeper between the gum and the tooth. Mouthwash doesn't kill bacteria. (Or, it does, but only for the 30 seconds it's in your mouth—meaning that you'll have just created a power-vacuum that other, worse bacteria from e.g. the back of your throat can intrude into. And now the alcohol has also dried out your mucous membranes!)
If a dentist needs to prescribe you a mouthwash, on the other hand—for example, to keep a wound inside your mouth clean post-surgery—they'll prescribe something with ingredients completely unlike that in "regular" mouthwash. Here's (https://www.amazon.ca/Chlorhexidine-Gluconate-Antiseptic-Pep...) an example of one.
The primary ingredient of "mouthwash that actually works" is chlorhexidine—that's a chemical more commonly used as a surgical antiseptic (i.e. a "scrub" doctors will sanitize their hands with before putting them inside your body.) Conveniently, the fact that it's safe to touch your internal organs with, also means that it's safe to touch your mucous membranes with. (Though it's not entirely safe; it says stringently on such mouthwashes not to swallow any—but not because it'd harm you per se, just that it'd likely kill your intestinal flora in much the same way an antibiotic would.)
Interestingly, chlorhexidine and xylitol work in similar ways—they're both things bacteria intentionally take up into themselves, that then destroy the bacteria from the inside. Xylitol just stalls the bacteria's metabolism, starving it to death; while, IIRC, chlorhexidine throws off the bacteria's osmotic regulation until it pops, much like highly-saline environments do—but without doing the same to animal cells. Unlike xylitol, though, chlorhexidine will stick around in the mucous membranes (until you do any of the stuff I mentioned in the previous post) for eight hours, protecting you all the while. It's great. Everyone should use it, at least at night.
It's kind of weird, given all this, that it's not well-known, and not used in regular mouthwashes, no? Well, much like you just can't convince some people that a HWRNG-seeded CSPRNG is a valid source of OS entropy, you just can't convince some people that long-term chlorhexidine use wouldn't result in bacterial resistance—even though, in both cases, if there was any potential for it to fail in "normal" use (OS entropy; mouth-washing), it would have failed a long time ago in the "heavy-duty" use-case where it's already being used (cryptography; surgery.)
Or, to put that another way: if doctors will put chlorhexidine on their hands every day without worrying about growing MRSA under their fingernails, you can put it in your mouth every day without worrying about growing MRSA in your throat.
(Bonus pleasant fact: most prepared chlorhexidine mouthwash solutions are sweetened with xylitol. So you're getting a double-effect from that.)
On the other hand, prepared chlorhexidine mouthwash isn't very cheap (the one I linked above was $15 for a bottle that'll last less than a month), and preparing such a mouthwash yourself from concentrate is really a hassle (pure 2-4% chlorhexidine gluconate is much cheaper, but just diluting it with water/alcohol would create a solution that only retains potency for ~1 day; you'd need to add other chemicals to make it shelf-stable.)
But, if you can't (or just don't want to) get chlorhexidine mouthwash, I still wouldn't recommend using alcohol-based mouthwash. For battling gingivitis or a canker sore or whatever else, Xylitol actually works pretty well as a "quick-fix" alternative. That is, it works well if you exploit the very property I mentioned before—increased mucous-membrane absorption and retention under dehydration. So, here's a "life hack":
• Go buy a box of xylitol sweetener packets (the kind you'd pour into coffee. You can probably find them sorted into the "nutrition products for diabetics" area of a drug store.)
• Before you sleep, brush your teeth, floss, swish with water, spit. And then...
• Dump one of those xylitol sweetener packets directly into your mouth, not dissolved in liquid or anything. Spread it around; get it onto the insides of your lips, onto your teeth, etc.
• Let it absorb. Don't swallow it; just let it sit.
• Go to sleep, just like that.
That will protect your mouth, at least a little. Far more than Listerine ever would.
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Oh, and as a separate thought: if you have recurring canker sores, oral thrush, throat/sinus infections, ear infections, etc., despite good oral hygiene—there's likely a "hidden fortress" of bacterial biofilm somewhere out of reach, probably your maxillary sinuses or adenoids or Eustachian tubes. These areas are "safe" for bacteria because they're damp from breathing, but few actual fluids reach them.
Want a permanent solution? Flush them out. For the nose, I see people trying nasal lavage ("neti pots" et al), and for the ears, I see people going to an ENT to get microsuction. Neither of these are really needed. The biofilms aren't invincible; they're just dry—too dry for your body's natural defences to loosen them. Drip a few drops of mineral oil down your nose/into your ears, once per day. After two days, you should start to feel the need to clear your sinus passages by snorting, inwards. Just keep doing that. And voila, the hidden fortress has been destroyed.
Personally I found my worst heartburn was at night, so sleeping with a wedge pillow stopped me from needing pills.
(Disclaimer: I am not a doctor.)
Give it a try. Can't hurt.
SLS is only used to make foam when you brush your teeth. I promise I won't think any less of your toothpaste if it doesn't foam!
And, I live in a water district with fluoride in the water.
Mouthwash, specifically Listerine. As long as I use it everyday I never get canker sores anymore.
Figure out how to reverse horizontal bone loss though, and you'll be rich!
ABSTRACT
Histatins are a group of antimicrobial peptides, found in the saliva of man and some higher primates, which possess antifungal properties. Histatins bind to a receptor on the fungal cell membrane and enter the cytoplasm where they target the mitochondrion. They induce the non-lytic loss of ATP from actively respiring cells, which can induce cell death. In addition, they have been shown to disrupt the cell cycle and lead to the generation of reactive oxygen species. Their mode of action is distinct from those exhibited by the conventional azole and polyene drugs, hence histatins may have applications in controlling drug-resistant fungal infections. The possibility of utilising histatins for the control of fungal infections of the oral cavity is being actively pursued with the antifungal properties of topical histatin preparations and histatin-impregnated denture acrylic being evaluated. Initial clinical studies are encouraging, having demonstrated the safety and efficacy of histatin preparations in blocking the adherence of the yeast Candida albicans to denture acrylic, retarding plaque formation and reducing the severity of gingivitis. Histatins may represent a new generation of antimicrobial compounds for the treatment of oral fungal infections and have the advantage, compared with conventional antifungal agents, of being a normal component of human saliva with no apparent adverse effects on host tissues and having a mode of action distinct to azole and polyene antifungals.
Kavanagh, Kevin and Dowd, Susan (2004) Histatins: antimicrobial peptides with therapeutic potential. Journal of Pharmacy and Pharmacology, 56.
ABSTRACT
Wounds in the oral cavity heal much faster than skin lesions. Among other factors, saliva is generally assumed to be of relevance to this feature. Rodent saliva contains large amounts of growth factors such as epidermal growth factor (EGF) and nerve growth factor (NGF). In humans, however, the identity of the involved compounds has remained elusive, especially since EGF and NGF concentrations are ∼100,000 times lower than those in rodent saliva. Using an in vitro model for wound closure, we examined the properties of human saliva and the fractions that were obtained from saliva by high-performance liquid chromotography (HPLC) separation. We identified histatin 1 (Hst1) and histatin 2 (Hst2) as major wound-closing factors in human saliva. In contrast, the d-enantiomer of Hst2 did not induce wound closure, indicating stereospecific activation. Furthermore, histatins were actively internalized by epithelial cells and specifically used the extracellular signal-regulated kinases 1/2 (ERK1/2) pathway, thereby enhancing epithelial migration. This study demonstrates that members of the histatin family, which up to now were implicated in the antifungal weaponry of saliva, exert a novel function that likely is relevant for oral wound healing.
Oudhoff, M. J., Bolscher, J. G. M., Nazmi, K., Kalay, H., van 't Hof, W., Nieuw Amerongen, A. V., Veerman, E. C. I.
1. It sounds like the mechanism for killing cells is very general. Why do histatins not attack somatic cells?
2. Do mouth wounds simply heal faster because the mouth is cleaner?
As for histamines, mast cells are designed to respond to them and rupture as part of your inflammatory cycle. They release more cytokines, recruiting neutrophils and in general telling your immune system to attack.
In regard to the second, I can say this: in the ER, a human bite is considered FAR more dangerous than a dog bite, because the human mouth has more — and more dangerous — pathogens. The mouth is much dirtier (not cleaner) than skin.
They semi-specifically target a receptor on C. albicans and other pathogens. They're also cationic [1], so they bind anionic lipids in bacteria and mitochondria that aren't found (in large quantities) on the mammalian cell surface.
> 2. Do mouth wounds simply heal faster because the mouth is cleaner?
From that second abstract:
"..histatins were actively internalized by epithelial cells and specifically used the extracellular signal-regulated kinases 1/2 (ERK1/2) pathway, thereby enhancing epithelial migration."
It's a relatively simple assay: Just grow a lawn of the skin cells, scrape a line down the middle, and see how quickly the line is filled in (with or without exogenous histatin).
So those peptides tend to do both: kill bacteria and lead to wounds healing faster.
[1] http://aps.unmc.edu/AP/database/query_output.php?ID=00505
Mouths heal faster because of the type of cells in there. Licking your wounds is a good way to get them infected. Use antibiotic creme and a bandage.
It certainly wouldn't surprise me to hear that Neosporin et al are usually unnecessary, but are they actually bad? And if they're bad because antibiotic resistance, are things like hydrogen peroxide and rubbing alcohol also bad?
In my experience, the issue with Neosporin (besides selecting for resistant bacterial populations) is that people develop a rapid counterreaction if they use it too long. The same applies to so-called "triple antibiotic ointments" and such.
Peroxide and isopropanol are more of an issue for healing, since they can be toxic to tissues.
Just keep it clean and let the body sort it out.
This isn't to say there isn't a role for topical antiseptics, but that role is probably right at the beginning after the wound is sustained. I'll go with "early" but definitely not "often."
The general stance here makes sense, though; possibly one non-antibiotic clean on a fresh injury, then just leave it alone.
Your mouth is full of bacteria, some of which could be harmful when introduced into an open wound. Your home first-aid kit is unlikely to be perfectly sterile, or as versatile as an entire medical clinic. If you are in the wilderness, and licking is the only means you have at your disposal to clean a wound, go for it. Your mouth is less dirty than actual dirt. Otherwise, use filtered, boiled water to wash, and a clean, sterile bandage to dress. [A single application of] antibiotic ointment is unlikely to hurt, but painting the surrounding skin with iodine would be better, and that kind of antimicrobial power isn't typically found at home, unless you have livestock and didn't care for the magnitude of your vet bills.
Povidone iodine in wound healing: A review of current concepts and practices
Abstract
BACKGROUND: Of the many antimicrobial agents available, iodophore-based formulations such as povidone iodine have remained popular after decades of use for antisepsis and wound healing applications due to their favorable efficacy and tolerability. Povidone iodine's broad spectrum of activity, ability to penetrate biofilms, lack of associated resistance, anti-inflammatory properties, low cytotoxicity and good tolerability have been cited as important factors, and no negative effect on wound healing has been observed in clinical practice. Over the past few decades, numerous reports on the use of povidone iodine have been published, however, many of these studies are of differing design, endpoints, and quality. More recent data clearly supports its use in wound healing.
METHODS: Based on data collected through PubMed using specified search criteria based on above topics and clinical experience of the authors, this article will review preclinical and clinical safety and efficacy data on the use of povidone iodine in wound healing and its implications for the control of infection and inflammation, together with the authors' advice for the successful treatment of acute and chronic wounds.
RESULTS AND CONCLUSION: Povidone iodine has many characteristics that position it extraordinarily well for wound healing, including its broad antimicrobial spectrum, lack of resistance, efficacy against biofilms, good tolerability and its effect on excessive inflammation. Due to its rapid, potent, broad-spectrum antimicrobial properties, and favorable risk/benefit profile, povidone iodine is expected to remain a highly effective treatment for acute and chronic wounds in the foreseeable future.
Bigliardi PL, Alsagoff SAL, El-Kafrawi HY, Pyon JK, Wa CTC, Villa MA.
Int J Surg. 2017 Aug;44:260-268. doi: 10.1016/j.ijsu.2017.06.073. Epub June 23 2017.
http://www.journal-surgery.net/article/S1743-9191(17)30536-8...
I'd be curious if this is a recent* change in methods, or a recent* push to ensure people are doing it.
*recent being the few years between when I've taken first aid courses.
I find this to be especially true if you're in a dirty environment such as when you're hunting or hiking.
A study published in the Annals of Plastic Surgery aimed to determine the effects of moist wound care. Researchers used a porcine wound model, to compare wet conditions using saline, moist conditions using hydrocolloid dressings and dry conditions using sterile gauze. The scientists found an increase in the presence of liquids led to faster healing (wet wounds healed after six days, while moist ones took seven days and dry wounds took eight). Additionally, moist and wet wound care led to less necrosis and inflammation as well as higher quality in the newly regenerated epidermis.
http://www.woundsource.com/blog/clearing-air-about-moist-vs-...
https://www.sunoven.com/how-to-heal-open-wounds-faster/
https://int.hansaplast.com/advisor/health-and-protection/moi...
https://www.advancedtissue.com/debunking-wound-cares-biggest...
your body will 'straighten out' due to pain, but wounds usually takes 2~3 days to heal
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