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Oh FFS. I don't need a fancier camera. I don't need animated emojis. I need a battery that lasts all day without having to keep the phone in low-power mode all the time. And I want it removable so when it wears out I can replace it myself. Samsung is jumping the shark.

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Then buy one of the phones that gives you that. There are phones out there with 4000 and 5000mah batteries.

Batteries of the same capacity can have different quality/lifetimes. Batteries in phones that get hotter also don't live as long. Batteries in Chinese phones that constantly do obscure stuff in the background also don't tend to last a full day.

That is true but beside the point no? Buy a phone that is known and tested for long battery life.

Mainstream users use their cameras A LOT. It's a very important upgrade every year imo.

> Samsung is jumping the shark.

You meant to say: every phone manufacturer is jumping the shark.

I am shopping for a new phone and none of the current models are interesting.

If you don't mind having a bit bulkier phone, I can highly recommend getting one from the Moto Z family + a battery moto mod.

I have a Play Z 1st gen and together with the mod, the battery lasts 4-5 days. It's pretty affordable, and while it's pretty bulky that is easily outweighed by not having to worry about running out of power anymore.

FWIW I'm very happy with my new Moto Z series phone so far. I haven't sprung for any mods yet but the phone itself is good. Battery life isn't great without the battery moto mod, but seems typical. For $350 unlocked I'll take this any day over an $800 phone.

I'll never be able to buy anything from Lenovo. I just can't forgive superfish.

One of the last updates for the Moto Z Play 1 did something horrible to my battery life and now it's no better than your average phone. If you check reddit and the Motorola support forum there are tons of people with the same problem.

I absolutely loved my Sony Z3 Compact exactly for that reason. Was happy to sacrifice fullHD screen for an all-day phone that was still fully functional. I was really disappointed to discover that, when it was time to upgrade, that line had been discontinued.

It hasn't at all been discontinued. The latest model was presented today and it's called XZ2 compact.

Shame it wasn't available last year when I bought my current phone. Last year there really wasn't anything truly worthy to be called a successor to the Z3 compact.

Actually, I think the camera & battery life are currently the most important features on a smartphone. I take all my pictures with my S8, casual or vacation and I'm thrilled if the next models are coming with a even better camera. Battery wise, I think that by now the minimal accepted performance is a full day on a single charge, with normal use, 4G and Wifi. Upgraded to the Samsung flagship every 2 years in the past 8 years and battery life was always within this acceptable limits.

May I introduce you to the moto G5? (cheap, has very long battery life.)

Almost no phones have replaceable batteries now. And the active variant tends to have insane battery life.

So, uh, what are you supposed to do when your phone locks up? Wait a few days for the battery to die?

Same thing you do on iPads or iPhones. Hold the power button down and it restarts.

Doesn't work on my current phone. It's totally locked up when that happens (luckily only once every few months).

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