Don’t Know What to Do with Your Life? Seek Bargains (2012)
calnewport.com
calnewport.com
>Dont do something comfortable or high paying for those reasons alone
>Think through decisions
>Set yourself up for the future
I sold out and took the money, but I had a future of building my personal projects and my job got me into electrical engineering where I was chemical prior.
I think this can apply in other fields, but consider it a list of things NOT to do.
> ...then pursue only jobs that will reward you with these traits if and when you master rare and valuable skills.
In my experience, most folks don't really have this luxury.
Being able to do that is kind of the definition of success. Revisionist founder narratives are like the Epics of Giglamesh; personal myths perpetuating egos and archetypes.
I like individualization; unique interesting people who don't just have 1 or 2 opportunities like this in their life but infinite and dimensonless opportunities.
Everyone's life is like this. Every moment is infinite as long as you don't define it solely by Establishment-confining paths like academia or high finance.
Hackers and painters.
The point may simply have been that while the microsoft job might have seemed special to someone without family/friends in the industry, it wasn't that much better than what was available to someone the educational establishment would see as bottom-of-sight, while a computer science PhD at MIT is certainly something very special, something I almost certainly will never have the opportunity to get.
(I am currently trying to get into a good school... and it's super interesting and different from anything I've ever tried before, in that the good schools? they judge you as much on your failures as on your successes. In industry? it seems to be the other way around; my failures, if anything, are bonuses. I failed at this that or the other and I learned these things and you should hire me because of it. In getting into college, though? as far as I can tell, they want someone who hasn't failed, because they are afraid of you failing at this, too, and ruining their stats. Of course... I guess that's part of why I want to get into an elite program, too; I figure that if you have a 90+% graduation rate, you are setup so that people don't fail. I mean, I know you pick good people on the frontend... but I know these people from work, and they aren't superhumans who don't fail in the real world when it comes to tasks that I personally consider quite a bit easier than academia.)
But this is Cal Newport, and he's shared what made him successful by heaps of writing - both his blog and his books, esp. "Deep Work" and "So Good They Can't Ignore You". You can't get his genes or his upbringing, but he's generous enough to teach what makes him tick. And if he's ostentatious, it is of the intellectual variety, and not of power or wealth, which is a minor lapse that doesn't deserve attention.
Or opportunistic enough to cash in on his privilege by both obtaining a fruitful career and then writing aspirational self-help books about it.
The lesson to learn is that good advice applies to your situation and bad advice does not.
With that said, it doesn't make him terrible. He's just a somewhat-elitist, academically-focused, motivational writer. He has literally written a book on how to be a straight-A student in college. It's not much help to someone who can't even break into those circles, but his ideas still have a place for those who can.
You realize that you're posting this on a forum run by Ycombinator, right?
It could apply to a broke high school dropout too. Choose the path that provides more opportunities to grow. Don't choose based only on the starting pay.
The part that's actually difficult is in the omitted details, privileges, and luck involved in getting the author to where they are now.
Second, how do you think it would sound if an MIT PhD started giving examples using underprivileged folks? I think many would equally dismiss him for being way out of touch.
Third, I see nothing in the advice given that limits it to privileged folks.
But mix in the letters M, I and T and people suddenly think he's tall engineer Confucious. People need to think about who they idolize and what it says about them.
But mix in the letters M, I and T and people suddenly think he's tall engineer Confucious. We as the tech community need to think really carefully about who we choose to idolize and what that says about us.
I'm not going to defend his phrasing, because it isn't clearly written. However, this is not what he is saying. He did not know if the job was a better or worse option than grad school. His point is to pick the option that provides for more flexibility. With a job, your options to change to something different 3-4 years down the road are limited. With a PhD, you have many more options open to you (or at least, the flexibility to create those options).
He took a gamble and is writing about how it worked out for him. If you have doubt, I can assure you I know people for whom taking that route ended up worse. Especially folks who went to a school like MIT for their undergrad.
>I read more intellectually stimulating bullsh*t on the back of a kumbucha bottle at lunch. But mix in the letters M, I and T and people suddenly think he's tall engineer Confucious. We as the tech community need to think really carefully about who we choose to idolize and what that says about us.
I see no indication that this is getting posted to HN due to his MIT affiliation, and you are essentially attributing intentions to people, which is almost never a good route to go. I do not see anyone here idolizing him. In fact, to be honest and blunt, most people I know who idolize him are non-achievers (sorry for the judgment!). Finally, and this may get me into trouble, the implication that the tech community should be uniform and consistent in who they idolize and who they don't is the most troublesome to me. I sincerely hope the tech community never becomes a community so easy to characterize.
MIT is obviously about the prestige and academic opportunities more than the money.
If you're saying these aren't great options for a college senior in 2004 you need to talk to a lot of college seniors to get some perspective. Your comment sounds like "this college student hasn't made millions of dollars or groundbreaking research, I don't know why you think he's any different than the average kid."
If you think that's "just cover rent and expenses" money, how do you think the people you buy coffee, food, or anything else from live??
The author also doesn't seem to discuss what he did the 8 following years, which seems baffling.
> I didn’t know which traits I ultimately wanted in my career, but I appreciated that MIT would offer me more options for the career capital I generated.
So which traits did you build?! Tell me up front why I should listen to you if I wanted to build a career (it's not cause you had two nice offers coming out of college - that's why I'd listen to you if I was a high school senior).
Since 2000, mostly through consumer debt. Wages have been stagnant in the face of increased cost of living; you can get financing for literally anything these days. Walmart dropped their layaway program in favor of pushing credit cards. Aaron's will rent you furniture for low monthly payments that add up to 5x the retail price. You can even take out a loan specifically to go on vacation.
$85k was worth a lot more in 2004 than it is now. It's still a king's ransom in rural/middle America but it doesn't get you far on either coast anymore if urban proximity is a requirement.
That's exactly who his intended audience was...
http://calnewport.com/books/straight-a-student/
https://cognitomentoring.org/blog/a-summary-and-broad-points...
In other words, Seattle housing went from pretty well below-average to wildly more than average in ~15 years.
So $85k in Seattle in 2004 then would be roughly like $160k in Columbus today.
Everything on top of that is gravy, especially when you're working at a tech company that pays for your healthcare and a lot of your food and coffee and maybe your commute.
You can walk to the Microsoft Shuttle, which covers the cost of your commute, and walk or take transit or a bike or a cab to the rest of Seattle, for maybe $100/mo in transportation expenses.
Eating well can be a couple hundred a month if you know how to cook for yourself, $1000/mo if you're spending $30/day on food.
None of these numbers come close to hitting $85k, especially when you pay $0 state income tax.
Obviously things are different as a sole provider for a family, but most 22 year olds aren't that.
Something is a bargain when it has a large ratio of value to cost.
The trouble with career choices is that the value is in the future - it is, at best, only probabilistically estimable.
Thus this advice merely moves the problem from choosing between alternatives to estimating future value of those choices. This doesn't really decrease the problem difficulty at all.
The justification for "methodology" is post-hoc. There was no guarantee he'd pick up rare and valuable skills in academia; to the degree that he did, using that fact as justification is very shaky.
I've worked with a number of people who spent years in academia and came out in varying states, some less suitable for the workplace, others enamoured with a way of living more compatible with student life than professional life, others more interested in digging into problems than getting things done, etc. I think these risks are real if you're aimless on a post-grad path.
See also: any “how to succeed in business” book like Good To Great.
"an agreement between two or more parties as to what each party will do for the other."
I've never, ever heard anyone use the word "bargain" in the way that the author is doing. I can't deny that it technically fits the definition, but if you want to be understand, I think it's important to use language the way other people use it.
The author repeated uses the word "traits" in the body of the text instead, and I think changing "Seek Bargains" to "Seek Traits" makes the title way more understandable.
This surprises me as much as the author's usage did not. Are phrases like "bargaining chip" or "more than they bargained for" not common enough that this sense of "bargain" is widely understood?
For reference, there appear to be two definitions of bargain:
1.an agreement between two or more parties as to what each party will do for the other.
2. a thing bought or offered for sale more cheaply than is usual or expected.
I believe that the author actually does mean to use definition #2. One of the section headers in the article is "Bargain Shopping Careers." This certainly implies looking for GOOD deals not simply 'agreements.'
While I agree the first definition of bargain is also commonly understood, if you say 'seeking bargains' and all you mean is a that you are seeking agreements AND you are talking to someone who grew up in United States, I would advise you to just say "seeking agreements" otherwise the person will assume you are specifically looking for 'good deals' not simply agreements.
"Bargaining chip" is a bit more obvious, though. I admit, it does mean that, but I still think of it as a thing instead of 2 separate words. Right up until you pointed it out.
Even "you drive a hard bargain" comes through my head full of meaning, and I have to think about the word itself to realize it means that.
So a point of clarification: I've never heard the word used that way that wasn't part of a colloquial phrase.
The article discusses a way to define a Bargain.
> choose the available job option that offers the greatest variety of these traits in exchange for career capital
- wherein he defines both value and what you're paying for it.
I assume that by "career capital" he means the opportunity cost of working for one organisation over another.
I'd like to add that at least for me it was confusing how many valuable skills I need before I can really sell myself consistently. It's not enough to just develop in a programming language. You need to know how to QA your code, how to project manage, how to deploy your code to users, how to sell, how to survive office politics, and on a higher level how to survive the office politics that happen at your customer/partner companies where you are not on-site on a daily basis.
Not the single skill is the value, but the combination of the right skillset. Think about it from a customer perspective. You don't pay for a car that only screwed together correctly, it also needs to drive, it also needs to be useful quickly to you (intuitive), and needs to get repaired if it breaks down, even if you are the one who used it incorrectly. Only if you have the feeling you get all of that then you will buy the car.
I sold out and took the money to be a program manager.
I use the money to pay for my pet projects that I hope one day will explode.
Goal is to be a leader, not a laborer.
No, seriously. If you never went through producing anything, the trouble of actually making it happen, the difference between the nice university theory in contrast to the real life experience of working with people, too little time and resources, etc. The stuff you never learn in any school because no teacher has the experience either.
It's really hard to express, but you are completely unable to lead without productive experience, as in show the way forward, as in organize resources, as in understanding organizational problems.
The best laborers are what becomes the best leaders, if they learn to use their laboring skills to improve others' performance and make people work together in a similar direction.
Maybe CS PhDs are different, but biology ones who I have worked with are low paid, stressful, and highly competitive to get past a couple of postdoc positions.
It might be more interesting work, but is your work the only real interest you have in life? There is so much more to explore than sitting in front of a screen trying to make code work.
I think a reasonable rule of thumb is that the quality of life for grad school in area X is directly proportional to the employability of a BA/BS or MS in area X. In CS most anybody doing a PhD at a decent school could leave for a CS job paying at least twice as much. In biology this is less true, and in the humanities it's even less true. IMO this explains mych of the difference in grad student experiences across these areas.
$1mm-$5mm+ compensation packages are not rare by any means.
Note: This is the case of an average coursework. Perhaps cal newport was always extraordinary and so had extraordinary options, but the advice has it's limitations for applicability to everyone.
The meta point being that advance programs recognize this pattern and then judge you accordingly.
The meta meta pattern thus leads to making all your moves seem like they were all planned from the start.
This is sort of encapsulated by a saying attributed to GE executives: “if at first you don’t succeed, bury all evidence that you tried.”
But given two similarly good options, it's a shot in the dark. The OP could have gone to Microsoft and became a CTO or CEO. Then he'll be writing how his Phd friends wasted their time in an academic career blablabla
You can't "see into the future of something". Especially when we are talking very long time frames (10-15 years). Someone who moved into Asia in the last 10 years would have done massive growth compared to someone who would have invested in south America (ie: Venezuela).
....I regret it.
That's a tough read. I think I read this sentence 10 times, and I still didn't know what it meant.
Finally moved on to the rest of the article to discover that he's talking about aspects of a job, such as having an impact.
So to rephrase, if you want to make an impact in your career, take the job that will allow you to make an impact if you do that job very well. Substitute 'impact' for whatever aspect of a job you'd like to have. Maybe a bit obvious when stated this way.
Scott Adams talks about combining skills like that in his book How to Fail at Almost Everything And Still Win Big [0]. He talks about his own combination of skills being "funnier than average" and "decent at drawing". I thought it was a good read. His talk of systems vs goals was also very worthwhile.
0: https://www.amazon.com/How-Fail-Almost-Everything-Still/dp/1...
The only way a skill remains rare and valuable, is if the skill is difficult to acquire and master at a high enough level to be useful. All the high paid professions fall under that category. Software engineering is definitely one of them.
http://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-1978-photo-2016-10#...
Counterpoint to the article very few stayed at Microsoft.
The core advice could be rephrased as “optimize for convexity (in the Taleb sense)” or even, “optimize for long term rather than short term value”.
Put this way, it seems uncontroversial, as many HNers agree with these sentiments.
Programmers, Physicians, well paid musicians....
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