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A JDAM through it's power supply would be an effective defense against a malicious strong AI.

Lions and Bears : Humans aren't a threat. Sharp teeth through the neck are an effective defense against a malicious human.

If the hypothetical malicious AI gets built, your JDAMs will be about as advanced by comparison as a pointy stick against an M-16.

Whatever. Let me know when someone invents an AI as smart as a lab mouse. Until then this is all just pointless idle speculation.

That's fair, but arguing something isn't possible is very different from arguing that when it happens you can solve it with a bomb. The conversation is about a hypothetical strong AI. You can say strong AI isn't possible, like you can say warp drives aren't possible, and it's still valid to discuss what it might be like if they were possible.

you're missing the point assuming we're talking about strong AI - when the paper is more addressing malevolent uses of weak AI.

Ok, that makes the post I'm replying to a non sequitur. Weak AIs in the short term are going to be hosted on AWS or Google cloud.

Is somebody going to take a JDAM to Google's data center in Atlanta or Amazon's data center in Seattle? Blow up Facebook in Palo Alto? Won't the US Air Force have a problem with that?

I'm loving this JDAM thing, tbh. I will use it going forward.

That's exactly like claiming it's still valid to discuss what it might be like if hypothetical aliens invaded the planet. Should we build some big lasers to protect ourselves just in case?

Entertaining perhaps, but ultimately pointless and silly.

Dropping JDAMs on cloud hosting server farms in the US or Europe is pretty fantastic.

What if it was distributed like bitcoin? If I was writing a dystopian sci fi novel the evil AI would evolve from a cryptocurrency network and have access to billions of dollars and autonomous corporations. Also the support of many humans who were invested in the currency. Just think of the politicians it could bribe/threaten with tens of billions in anonymous crypto.

A strong AI which limits itself to one machine, isn't very strong at all.

> A JDAM through it's power supply would be an effective defense against a malicious strong AI.

For a counterpoint (and not even a particularly malicious strong AI), see The Adolescence of P1.

You're confusing SciFi with reality. It's exactly like worrying about an alien invasion. Silly and pointless.

Only if you recognize its malicious intent before it convinced you to implant the fancy new chips that it invented right into your brain.

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