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India a country of 1.3 billion people, has its own share of law and order issues but never in my life I heard anything like this. Thanks to Britain, we have anti gun legislation from the colonial era, though the reasons were different back then.

My father had a licensed gun. I believe my family got it for crop protection in 60s. I don’t recall it being used anytime but I do remember that he needed to surrender it at local magistrate office, anytime there were state or federal elections. After he passed away, we surrendered it permanently. I guess I had a choice to transfer the license to my name which I never did.

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  never in my life I heard anything like this.

In contrast, never in my life has America faced anything like this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Mumbai_attacks

In America, mass shootings only seem to occur in "gun-free zones", where perpetrators know there is little chance of armed interdiction before they have accomplished their mission.

> In America, mass shootings only seem to occur in "gun-free zones", where perpetrators know there is little chance of armed interdiction before they have accomplished their mission.

The most recent widely publicized one took place at a school with armed police on campus (even though schools might be fun free but for law enforcement, it doesn't meet your description); of the five deadliest mass shootings in the US, three were in nothing even remotely like a gun-free (even excluding law enforcement) zone.

So, it may “seem” to you to be as you describe, but that's an issue with your perception, not the substantive facts.

Really? Then list which five you're referring to.

  armed police on campus

In fact, just one security guard was assigned to the campus but was not, in fact, near any of the buildings... and all officers who eventually responded made NO attempt to interdict the shooter.

  of the five deadliest mass shootings in the US, three were in nothing even remotely like a gun-free

Really? This is what CNN calls the 5 deadliest:

The Harvest Music Festival: the Route 91 Harvest Music Festival grounds disallowed attendee guns and used metal detectors.

the Pulse nightclub in Orlando -- posted "no guns allowed" club.

Virginia Tech: gun-free campus except for weapons stored at range.

Sandy Hook: gun free school zone

First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs: posted "no guns allowed".

That's FIVE of five.

It "seems" your "substantive facts" need better research.

You have to go back to 2008, to a series of events that killed 170 people.

About 60 people have been killed in mass shotings in the US in the 48 days of this year.

> In America, mass shootings only seem to occur in "gun-free zones", where perpetrators know there is little chance of armed interdiction before they have accomplished their mission.

No. In America mass shootings are so common they're not widely reported. You're cherry picking mass-shootings to fit your narrative. If you look at all of them you'll see they occur all over, and not just in "gun free" zones. This is a consistant tactic used by gun rights advocates: exclude any gun violence they can to reduce the numbers. "This mass shooting doesn't count, it's gang violence", "These deaths don't count, they're suicide", "This isn't a mass shooting, because only 3 people died"

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/02/10/kentucky-murd...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/05/three-police-offi...

http://www.theadvocate.com/new_orleans/news/crime_police/art...

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/tag/mass-shooting-detroit/

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/breaking-news/breaking-pbs...

etc etc (This is an incomplete list of February's mass shootings.)

>This is a consistant tactic used by gun rights advocates: exclude any gun violence they can to reduce the numbers. "This mass shooting doesn't count, it's gang violence", "These deaths don't count, they're suicide", "This isn't a mass shooting, because only 3 people died"

The irony is that your sibling poster also wrote this: "Mumbai attack was a terrorist attack. My response was in context of mass shooting in schools."

If I may suggest, please read 2008 Mumbai attack and see if there are really any parallels. There is a difference when someone from a foreign land acquire weapons outside and attacks you (unless I am missing the point you are trying to make).

You're reduced to counting police shooting a murderer who shot one person as a "mass shooting"?

Mumbai attack was a terrorist attack. My response was in context of mass shooting in schools.

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