Buzz Kill
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This reminded me of something from one of Joel Spolsky's last regular blog posts (http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2010/03/14.html):
Although I appreciate that many people find Twitter to be valuable, I find it a truly awful way to exchange thoughts and ideas. It creates a mentally stunted world in which the most complicated thought you can think is one sentence long. It’s a cacophony of people shouting their thoughts into the abyss without listening to what anyone else is saying. Logging on gives you a page full of little hand grenades: impossible-to-understand, context-free sentences that take five minutes of research to unravel and which then turn out to be stupid, irrelevant, or pertaining to the television series Battlestar Galactica. I would write an essay describing why Twitter gives me a headache and makes me fear for the future of humanity, but it doesn’t deserve more than 140 characters of explanation, and I’ve already spent 820.
It takes time to understand what new media are for. Real, human-scale time, measured in years. The inventors of the telephone thought it was a B2B technology, didn't really grasp that everyone was going to have a phone in their home and use it to talk to relatives. The inventors of the phonograph, amazingly, thought of that as a business technology as well, for recording memos and stuff.
Twitter et al are in their infancy and are still growing. They get new users all the time; the new users happen upon different aspects of the tool and use it differently; some uses are ultimately better than others. It's the blind men and the elephant, except that the elephant is the size of the Library of Congress and there are seven billion blind men, two thirds of whom have yet to touch the elephant.
I, for one, don't have so many problems with Twitter, but that's probably because I use it differently from others. Let me offer some suggestions:
If you find that you feel lost because you no longer remember how many of the people you follow on Twitter are still alive you need to follow fewer people. I follow 97 people. Even that may ultimately be too large, although most of those people are very quiet, so I can probably keep growing it, especially as the client software gets smarter.
Remember that Twitter is RSS for humans. It's Delicious for non-nerds. It is for exchanging links, not ideas. If you have an idea that can't fit into 140 characters write it down in 2000 characters and then tweet the link.
Of course, Twitter can also be used to exchange ideas that are not worth more than 140 characters. Sometimes these Tweets are short because they are poetry. Sometimes they are short because they are stupid. Follow the poets; unfollow the stupid. Just because people are shouting nonsense doesn't mean you have to hear them. The Internet's soundproofing is very good.
Speaking of Internet soundproofing, signal-to-noise, and maintaining one's sanity: I don't follow hashtags. Like, ever. I'm not quite ready to pound the table and declare that hashtags are never going to work, because they're eventually going to be nothing but SEObots retweeting other SEObots in a vast, roiling AI botwar, but I for one don't miss them. Important things get retweeted by your followers or echoed in some other medium.
If someone's Twitter feed is not a net win you need to unfollow them. This can hurt. I kind of like Roger Ebert's Twitter feed, but the guy does. Not. Stop. My feed is like 85% Ebert. And almost everything he says is interesting, or could be interesting, but I'm not suffering from a shortage of interesting things, and he's drowning out the quiet folks. I need a Twitter client that has better stream management. For example, it could throttle access to my main stream: Ebert gets X tweets per hour on average into my aggregated stream; to see Ebert's full stream I need to click on something.
Speaking of which: I know there are ten thousand Twitter clients already, but there will be more. Client development is also in its infancy.
Twitter is RSS for humans.
Uhm, what? Maybe for some weird breed of humans who cannot digest more than 140 chars and hate context.IMHO Twitter is a medium, not a technology. Not that the specific word we use makes much difference. Call it a genre, if you like.
Much less in their pockets.
> Ebert gets X tweets per hour on average into my aggregated stream;
And those should be the ones re-tweeted most often.
Leo used Google Buzz, Twitter, etc. to broadcast content instead of cultivating conversation & community. If he was using these tools for two-way interaction instead of one-way communication, he would've gotten a lot more complaints when he went offline.
Schopenhauer had a name for this empty talk, he called it “fencing in the mirror.” It’s more common than you think. Consider all the times you’ve seen some blogger apologize for not posting recently – profusely addressing some concern that likely was never expressed. Or the Twitter updates to 38 followers, half of which are bots or uncaring companies. More realistically, maybe you’ve read too much into looks from a table of girls at a restaurant (a type I evolutionary error). Maybe you like like to roll down the windows in your car, turn up the stereo and know that everyone is just so impressed by your classic taste.
This isn't really directed a Leo since he does actually have an audience, but people obviously aren't hanging off of his every utterance. The same goes for all of us (for the most part) and our comments here, haha.
Buzz and Wave will never take off with the people I work with, or my friends, because we're all a bit old-fashioned and I doubt any one of us would sooner "tweet" a message than phone someone up and talk to them directly. Sure, I realise it's a one-to-many operation (unlike a phone-call) but honestly, what do I have that's worth actually broadcasting?
What will we have to show for Facebook other than a bunch of divorces and bad memories from resurfaced high school acquaintances? I guess another guilt-ridden billionaire charity fund but not much more.
It's an ego-driven medium. All of it: YouTube (when actually done for its intended purpose and not flagrant copyright flouting); facebook/myspace, foursquare, getglue. It's all about what you're doing and more recently _where_ you are when you're doing it. It's about the inherent need for self-fulfillment.
Let's say you have great taste in music. Just by someone noticing your daily playlist, you have an admirer. That admirer might want to know more about you based on that superficial quality, and follow you on your social update tool of choice. It's a tool of communication, much like a phone (actually more like a partyline, but I digress).
When it boils down to it, people need people, and as social creatures, we find every convenient avenue of acquiring and managing our social sphere as we can without expending too much energy. If we didn't care about any of that, hell, we wouldn't ever even comment in HN, right m0nty?
I guessed someone would try to make that point :) You'll notice I rarely do comment here, and I don't on reddit, youtube, Digg, etc. At least here, there is something approaching a conversation. But, Golden Rule: if I have nothing to say, I don't.
My apologies if I was unclear: I don't check those sites. Also, this insight you have that people are basically social animals, that's not exactly a revelation. But I would contend, along with OP, that our natural sociability is not best served by social networking.
You don't have to post navel-gazing facebook status updates. It is also a very elegant way to share family and friend group photos and plan events.
Do you even remember how hard it was to plan events with Evite? That was incredibly horrible, and yet people were thrilled because it was better than nothing.
Maybe it is just hard to grasp for people who don't understand the concept of "pay forward"?
So ... so I'm a bad person if I don't use Twitter? Seriously?
Um.. how about your Hacker News comments?
(and yes, the above would fit into a tweet, but it would be so devoid of context as to be absolutely meaningless to people who weren't already reading this same thread)
ugh, no thanks. If I have an hour of free time and a choice between hearing what vapid morons have to talk about, or illuminating myself with something a bit deeper, I'll take the later.
For large public conversations, most of what you read is contributed by people you don't know. Your friends' contributions are only a small part of what makes the place what it is. And yet the overall effect is valuable.
So post or don't post, as you please. There are only a few people whose posting schedules I keep track of, but I still value the overall effort.
HN is also a bad medium for real conversations ... nothing beats directly seeing or hearing a person directly. It's all about the context, which in many cases is missing entirely from a textual conversation ... like your background or your body-language.
The later is very important: when 2 humans speak to each other, there's a synchronized motion going on, much like dancing. It is said that skillful sales people are so persuasive because they can get other people to dance on their rhythm.
Twitter is to me a tipping point ... an ADHD epidemy going rampant / information overload showing its side effects.
Ever seen a 14 year old teenager talk to his friends on messenger ... context free, incomprehensible, pointless messages written with a bad grammar and lots of misspellings because typing is just too much work.
That's what Twitter is ... a communication medium that's bringing everyone's communication style to a common denominator.
I'm glad Leo has seen the light.
* NPR: Car Talk
* NPR: Planet Money
* PRI: Selected Shorts
* PRI: To the Best of Our Knowledge
* Stuff You Should Know
* This American Life
* WNYC's Radiolab
* Xbox Live's Major Nelson Radio
That's usually more than enough new content to last me through a week (1.5 hrs per day in the car). Sometimes TAL has re-runs that I've already listened to, or SYSK has a not-so-interesting topic, but it's usually not a problem.
I really miss the Stack Overflow podcasts, but I suspect they just ran out of material.
I've tried listening to Software Engineering Radio, but I'm practically ADD when it comes to podcast hosts, and it's difficult to pay attention to this sort of podcast (others seem to love it, but it's not for me). This is one of the reasons why I love Planet Money and Radiolab. Both usually talk about topics that aren't in my field, and usually do so in a very interesting manner.
Maybe if Google do something more interesting with Buzz in future then I might re-enable it one day, but otherwise it seems to have gone the same way that Wave did.
What is the use case where a human being would ever actually read a piece of text coming from Twitter? The only one I can think that of is searching for one's own product name to see if anybody is writing about it. Is there another reason I'm missing?
That's not a very far stretch. People read things from Twitter all the time, that's not the problem. The issue is they only read the most recent stuff river of news style and who knows how many people they follow?
Leo's Buzz to Twitter cross-poster should have had some kind of link tracking built into the URL to tell him if people were clicking on his updates.
Leo says he had 15 updates in 2 weeks not broadcast, but when you look at his usual posting style, it's all notifications about his recent shows (which I get via iTunes automatically) and (self confessed) pictures of food he's eating. That's not exactly quality material that people will click through to. Had he posted more appealing content, his lack of updates would have been a greater loss.
Leo, after the thousands of words he's written promoting these types of social media, found out that that's what most people are writing about, trivialities of interest to no-one/notification information we already have two dozen ways of getting...and thus everybody finds everybody else's tweets annoying and instantly put into that same part of the brain that selectively ignores web advertising.
That's why nobody noticed. I doubt most people would notice if most of the people they follow stopped tweeting. They're probably ignoring most of it anyway.
1. I see X happening when I'm walking around (protesters, fireworks, concert, police barricades). 2. I search where I am in Tweetie. 3. I find out what's going on and, if I'm interested in it, might join.
Twitter is all about discovery. Not communication.
I don't see it as "hey, hey, look at me!" but I have mellowed out a lot in the last few years, so it's probably just a difference of perspective. I'm optimistic with people I know and pessimistic with people I don't.
It's especially important to me as we all get older, move to other states, and have kids which eat into our free time. We can't hang out, but we can "hang out" with each other through Twitter.
I really don't think this is true at all. Leo runs a media company and many people follow him to keep tabs on what he is doing. It is not a personal relationship. He doesn't answer a large percentage of his audience so there is no true conversation. Most people probably thought he was on vacation or something. They were probably listening to others or talking to the people they actually have real "engagement" (oh, how I hate that term) with. Dunbar's number seems to be in affect.
The funny part is that many people with high follower counts crowd source answers instead of doing research, but don't balance that with answering questions themselves.
I think Leoville is misguided for treating microblogs literally as a lite version of blogs. I guess the term is a little misleading but the platform really isn't a place for any random blogger to find a cult following.
Individuality is not that big of a deal. Trends are. I wonder if this is a contributing factor to Twitter's success in Japan, which has a culture favoring the collective over the "me" mentality.
I like being able to follow people on Twitter because it gives me a convenient way to see snippets of info about what's going on in their lives. I think he should continue to provide that for the the people that want it, even if the hub of the information is once again his blog.
Why traditional blogging is a better medium than micro-blogging or social media - via Twitter
Quite ironic.
I think if anything it just goes to show that buzz is way more personal than twitter and most people unfollowed him on it because he was too spammy. My small circle of friends still routinely use it to share stuff that we find amusing/interesting.
Otherwise, from a personal standpoint, it's pretty useless. I just post to stroke my ego every now and then.
I don't yet know what social media is. I just know that we're doing it all wrong.
They haven't invented anything ... they just brought an existing paradigm to the Internet: and that would be SMS messages.
And don't know about the US, but SMS messages have been all the rage and are still really popular, with some anecdotal evidence of how similar they are ....
Retwitting (CHECK): I got the same jokes over SMS from multiple people.
Many-to-many communication medium (CHECK): Around every holiday, people are sending SMS messages with greetings to a whole list of people. It costs a lot more than on Twitter so it only happens around holidays.
List of connections (CHECK): it's called a phone-book, and phones have one incorporated.
Messages limited to 140 chars, encouraging retard-like talk (CHECK): of corZ, ritN crrct sentences S jst so lst yr
He has a large fan base, and I believe is well liked. I think he points out that twitter isn't building up peoples attention span but making it much shorter. The vast amount of tweet poring in just drowns out the individual posters. I can tell you right now, I wouldn't notice if a couple of people I subscribe to disappeared from twitter except maybe my wife :)
This will sound conceited, but I think most people I'm associated with via Twitter would probably care if I disappeared without a peep for more than 5 days. So I think that while most people don't really care about his tweeting, nearly every other user's connections to their followers/followees will be much tighter.
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=491503
and
http://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=losethos
freaky:
This guy is the perfect use case for hellbanning. It would be a much bigger problem for him and for us if he was disrupted. A padded room is perfect for him.
I don't fret so much about hellbanning anymore, especially since pg's gotten much less capricious about it.
It's not really any of these two services' fault that this obscure addon stopped working.
No one noticed, or cared that it was broken.
It would have been more accurate as "I stopped shouting into the vast echo chamber but nobody noticed because they were too busy shouting themselves."