Comment by luckydude | Hacker News Reader

Comment by luckydude | Hacker News Reader

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As the bitkeeper guy, I'm watching this with amusement. Intel used BitKeeper for over a decade for their RTL and when they used BK things seemed fine. We did everything that Intel wanted, at one point I realized we had taken $7M of revenue from other customers over the years and spent it on doing work for Intel. And that was still not enough for them.

They switched to git because free is better (we were a rounding error on a rounding in terms of cost to Intel, the most they ever paid us in a year is .00000004 of their revenue).

But that was too much so they switched to git and it's been downhill for them ever since.

I'm not an idiot, I don't think that the switch to git is the cause of their problems, their problems are self inflicted. I'm just one of many many vendors that Intel has fucked over. So I like seeing them squirm.

Karma is a bitch Intel.

Edit: yup, knew I'd get down voted. Don't care. Try being an Intel vendor and get back to me about how much you like that.

I don't really get it. You seem to be complaining that a party chooses to no longer be your customer? Isn't it their full right to decide so? What makes discontinuing a business relationship more "fucking you over" than you "fucking over the supermarket" by choosing to go to another supermarket?

McFly's right, if a bit sensational (ehhh, it's his style.)

However, as poorly as they treat their vendors, it's nothing compared to what they do to their employees and sadly large segments of their first line and middle management not only buy into that but have spent time making that into an art form.

What do they do to their employees?

Ask them to sign NDAs.

@luckydude isn't just some random troll.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_McVoy

It seems unfair that you are taking it out on Intel for dropping your product-- when in fact, the entire industry dropped your product. Git is free, more widely supported, open-sourced, and doesn't get angry when a user stops using it. Technology evolves - best not to pick at old scabs.

I could go into details about how they screwed us but that is perhaps a thread of its own. We bitch slapped them at the end when I finally grew a pair (after years and years of just doing whatever they wanted).

If you are an Intel vendor you will like this tidbit, they were on our paper. Not their agreement, they agreed to our paper. I think we are the only small vendor that they ever did business with where they didn't force their terms into the deal.

Looking at CVs, everyone knows git. Using anything else would require not just licence costs. Also training and potentially reducing the pool of possible hires.

BK predates Git by quite a while. The free alternatives then were sccs, cvs, rcs, etc.

That doesn't change anything. Older or not, people use git.

Because you came up randomly with your disappointment absolutely unrelated to today's topic, I'm tempted to give you another unrelated news: the Linux project has stopped using Bitkeeper too.

This is super uncalled for.

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