I have well over 10 customers. I want to take my startup to the next level
greengar.com
greengar.com
No, you don't. Really.
You have millions of users. "Customers" are the people who have paid for your apps.
Keep this distinction in mind.
Not someone that pays for your apps, and where would that leave services, goods and other things that people pay for?
If you're in a long term relationship with a large number of people and they don't pay you but you are making money off them in a different (for instance indirect) way they are as critical to your bottom line as paying people would be.
Free does not always mean you have no customers, free can mean you have customers but the price is $0.
So, technically the guy has a sales funnel with 1 million people in it that need to be converted to paying customers.
If that distinction did not exist we'd never have to use the word 'paying' attached to customers in that context.
Where I come from, we call the later a "prospect."
Not someone that pays for your apps, and where would that leave services, goods and other things that people pay for?
I was speaking in the context of app development. Obviously, if you are a shoe retailer, your customers are the people who buy your shoes. If you are a publisher, your customers are the people who buy your books. Note that the people who read your books in libraries are not, strictly speaking, your customers-- although the acquisition librarians are.
So, technically the guy has a sales funnel with 1 million people in it that need to be converted to paying customers. If that distinction did not exist we'd never have to use the word 'paying' attached to customers in that context.
I'd argue that the "paying" in "paying customers" is pleonastic-- it is used as an intensifier, as in "my personal friend".
If people pay you for ad space then they're your customers too, and will need to be treated as such. But that does not change the other side much. And plenty of companies have a freemium product and ads at the same time.
The original poster seemed to think he had "millions of customers". He didn't, and doesn't, and that kind of fuzzy thinking isn't going to bring him any closer to the day when he actually does have millions of customers.
- the world
- visitors
- recurring visitors
- members
- paying members
The transition from being a transient to being a customer to me happens somewhere between the visitors and the recurring visitors stage, the point where people start to invest in the site, maybe store some content there or make some changes to the state.All the people from 'visitors' (inclusive) down I'd label as users, and the visitors themselves I'd label prospects.
Fuzzy thinking isn't going to bring him closer, but rigidly defining terms in a way that is not suited to the current model (freemium services), but for instance more suited to selling cars or shoes is also not going to help.
The lines are there, but the transition points are not quite as hard as they are in retail.
Especially not in a subscription environment, users will deserve and demand to be treated as customers long before they fork over their cash or it isn't going to happen.
I'd agree. And I'd label the "paying members" as "customers".
users will deserve and demand to be treated as customers long before they fork over their cash or it isn't going to happen
That's a key point. If you have to treat subscribers as if they were customers when they are not paying (i.e., put significant resources into support, etc.), your CAC is going to be high. That's not necessarily a problem in and of itself, but it's worth paying attention to.
Sure, but in some business models, that value is negative-- take the case of a non-paying user who demands a lot of support resources, for example.
If you have a free ad-based application then maybe this is only some cents per user. In this case it does not hold that the 'first ten customers' is what is important. Maybe the first 10.000. On the other hand if you are selling dirt expensive stuff then the first 10 customers is a big deal.
I disagree. Having ten (paying) customers is a good milestone, regardless of the cost of the product. (Remember that in an ad-based application, ten paying customers would mean ten advertisers, not ten users.)
The point of the original article is that if you haven't reached that ten-customer milestone, you haven't really validated your customer development work. "If you build it, they will come" is a cute phrase, but hope is not a strategy. If you build it, and ten people come and pay, you're on your way.
That said, you seem awesomely successful, and I love the idea of taking your venture to the 'next level' by recruiting and training others to join you.
Sounds like some really successful apps. Add some ads or start charging, and you are set.
My apps already contain some ads, and I have some paid apps as well.
If what they say they want isn't actually what they want,, then how do you know what they want?