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Are you implying that if you call the police in the U.S. you just need to accept that there is a chance that you get shot? Even if you are unarmed?

A 28 year old person was shot dead when he opened his door. In what universe is anyone responsible for this except for the fucking police, shooting the UNARMED guy who simply opens the door at his mothers house?

Honestly we live on the same planet, but in different worlds.

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> Are you implying that if you call the police in the U.S. you just need to accept that there is a chance that you get shot? Even if you are unarmed?

Well, it happens - http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/17/us/minneapolis-woman-kille...

The universe where someone else intentionally coerced badly trained and overarmed idiots into being there and made them think they might be shot at.

> A 28 year old person was shot dead when he opened his door. In what universe is anyone responsible for this except for the fucking police, shooting the UNARMED guy who simply opens the door at his mothers house?

In this universe, where someone called in a hostage situation knowing that a full blown SWAT team would be sent in.

I am in no way saying that the police were anything other than completely and utterly in the wrong to shoot that man.

What I am saying is that doesn't absolve the responsibility of the person intentionally calling in SWAT in the United States because they're upset with someone over a $1.50 bet. With how often there are news stories about plain officers shooting unarmed civilians, you have to know that calling in a SWAT team carries with it the chance of death.

I honestly, seriously don't understand why this is controversial.

You do not open the door when the bell rings, you go on the floor like any sane person? Im sure OP is lying there right now in a puddle of freedom.

In this universe, if you call the police and say you are an armed man holding hostages, you should expect that you will get shot. The fact that someone was shot based on a malicious false report like this wasn’t even a surprise, for many people. It was literally expected to happen at some point. You are confusing a description of how the world “should be” with how it “is” - he is being charged based on how the world is.

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