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Rees (http://mumble.net/~jar/) studied under Sussman at MIT and is one of the creators of Scheme48 (http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/projects/s48/).

Before that he was one of the fathers of T (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T_%28programming_language%29) which was pretty much the first production Scheme.

>>> In that case, the only way OO can be defended is in the same manner as any other game or discipline

Brilliant meta-analysis of abstract patterns and narratives.

"So OO is not a well defined concept." Hmmm, last I checked OO was pretty well defined. The implementations of so-called OO languages, on the other hand, that's another story.

If Jonathan or Paul have any doubts on the concept as it was originally conceived, they don't really have to go far. Just ask Alan Kay. He's still alive!

http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~ram/pub/pub_jf47ht81Ht/doc_kay...

Jonathan Rees on OOP