What I really want is to be able to open a link in a tab and not load it (much less render it) until I switch to that tab. Why? Because I sometimes open lots of tabs and don't want those pages to have scripts running even from origins I allow (via NoScript) until I say it's OK (by switching to the tab).
Think of it as ephemeral bookmark that I want to get to later.
So I literally want a snapshot of it staying there. This way when i switch to it, it should be close to instantaneous.
I have been thinking of another Idea, when unread tabs reach a large number, these tabs were once opened, but inactive or not touched for a period of time because i didn't have time to read it yet, should automatically move off to another Window. And this Window should be designed to have Tabs on the side, and some other changes making it more of a reading session rather then browsing / surfing session.
Why not bookmark it or Pocket it, because these action will simply means i will never touch them again or I forget about it.
Tree Style Tabs Doesn't work for me, I tried it a number of times, in theory it should, in practice it is a little over complicated. Tab List so far is working great for me. As of writing I have 260 Tabs opened, thanks to CES.
You can enable "screen capturing" in Suspender for that.
https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/tab-suspender-ta...
Because I can not find such an option in its settings.
My view is those pages don't actually matter to you, they're irrelevant and you won't actually miss them.
As a reluctant user of tree style tabs (holding out for the restoration of tab groups), I disagree.
I usually have different sets of tabs open:
- A set for each of the 2-3 projects I have active this month
- Casual browsing
- Read later
- Do later
Pocket or similar (ignoring my refusal to use a 3rdParty service for my own data) would only be useful for do-later and read-later.
With tab groups I had a perfect setup which supported /all/ my use cases in one go. With TST I can roughly approximate this with a top-level tab for each (it's not great).
Bookmarks need to be replaced with something that covers a wider range of use-cases without having to cobble together a bunch of different workflows.
People know about bookmarks and pocket. Most people who are actively searching out extensions are not avoiding learning a different workflow (obvious if you think about it). I've gone through many different workflows, and I'll keep testing out more. Tab groups was the best thing yet for me.
They're mostly just passing momentary fascinations, so either act on them or let them go. If something actually is important, you'll come across it again, or simply remember it.
I struggled for years with tons and tons of unread tabs, forgotten bookmarks, endless unstarted projects, hundreds of unwatched movies, unlistened albums. Learning to just let them go was the best thing that ever happened to me. The important stuff tends to stick around in memory, all by itself.
As a small part of that, I've instituted a "24 hour minimum" rule. If I see something I like, I add it to the shopping basket or save it in some other way that's not immediately visible when I'm on my PC or phone. Then I wait at least 24 hours. If I still desire that item after the waiting period has passed, I'll consider buying it. It has saved me so much money, and helped me avoid a ton of junk that would otherwise just be taking up space in my home.
Keeping too much stuff "active" is stressful as hell, and it's wonderful to be able to just not care about it.
My point about bookmarks and pocket not filling my use-case (even if I dropped read/do later) stands -- I really do want multiple switchable tab contexts.
- middle-click on a bunch of links from the front page
- pick a tab to read
- lather, rinse, repeat
- get interrupted, leave some tabs lying around unread or to comment on later
- lather, rinse, repeat
Firefox used to have this option natively. It was removed some day.
Besides, this seems like a lot easier to implement than tab warming (which, reminder, I don't want).
I don't want to have to install an add-on for something so basic.
Also, they are warming the tab when you are hovering over it. If you are just opening up a link in a new tab and not switching to or not coming close to switching to it, it will not 'pre-warm' anything.
Clever optimisation tho.
https://stallman.org/stallman-computing.html
>I generally do not connect to web sites from my own machine, aside from a few sites I have some special relationship with. I usually fetch web pages from other sites by sending mail to a program (see https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/womb/hacks.git) that fetches them, much like wget, and then mails them back to me. Then I look at them using a web browser, unless it is easy to see the text in the HTML page directly. I usually try lynx first, then a graphical browser if the page needs it (using konqueror, which won't fetch from other sites in such a situation).
The more Firefox strips out, the more I feel itchy to move to something like Dillo or NetSurf. Something small, fast, reliable. Something _hackable_.
How often do you open a link in a tab, then later decide that you don't trust the site and decide to close the tab without switching to it?
> even from origins I allow (via NoScript)
This implies it's not about trust, it's about resource usage.
I wish all tabs loaded with all of the above turned off by default, with a button at the top of the window to turn on javascript/etc. just for that tab.
Why should I want to allow a bunch of tabs to run unknown scripts in the background without my approval? I mean, talk about the spectre of Spectre attacks.
I open N tabs from the HN front page, then read them asynchronously. Some I never get to, true, but certainly not most. Some I want to keep around for a while. Some I read/skim and/or close right away.
> and is currently off by default while we test it and work out more kinks
> I know there's a setting.