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Memory usage? Sure, but as developers we probably have GB and GB sitting there

GB and GB which I had hoped to use for running an entirely other operating system, and all of its apps, in a VM, not run a goddamned text editor.

And that’s what annoys me about the “so what?”s. Start up time? Even just an update that requires a restart will make me wonder “I’m in the middle of something, how badly do I want this?” Resource hungry? See above, I have those resources for other stuff, not your piggish version of Notepad. A lot of these things can be excused for an OS, a database, crypto currency worker, but NOT AN EDITOR.

But even if I were more tolerant, as you point out the general use case has been abysmal in my experience. If this kind of thing is what you want, I fail to see why one wouldn’t just use VS Code.

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You know, I'm not saying those things aren't important.

I'm just saying that the general use case sucks enough that I'd think you'd want to worry about that _first_, then perhaps think about startup time (maybe).

Sorry, wasn’t really arguing with you personally. And I agree, I am way more tolerant than I should be because “shiny”. Last I used VS proper (and it has been a while), it was a pig, but kinda worth it for the developer experience. But as you point out, all that piggishness and the experience is less than great? Umm, someone needs to do a rewrite.

> I fail to see why one wouldn’t just use VS Code

Github is cool, Microsoft isn't. /s

VSCode is really bizzare, in a good way. All the configuration is done through JSON files. It's a good editor as well as an IDE. There's no "projects" or "solutions" or wizards. I almost never run into issues with it.

It doesn't feel like a microsoft product at all. Nothing like Visual Studio.

Maybe I should give VSCode a try then. I've been using Atom for a year now and some things just never felt good.

I was in your position a year back. Now I'm in love with VSCode. Do give it a try.

VSCode won me over grudginly. It's faster, lighter, and just as extensible. I was conditioned at an early age to throw holy water at anything Microsoft, and still, I like VSCode better than Atom.

VS Code is basically everything Atom tries to be and/or should have been. To me it’s the spiritual successor of the original TextMate: works great out of the box, but can also be customized to fit your needs.

I don't know about this. Configuration via JSON is common (Sublime Text, the most popular), I'd say that it's Atom that is bizzare on this aspect.

As for "projects", I'd argue that if you open a folder, that's your project/workspace/whatever.

Just thought I'd add this in case someone who doesn't know VS Code[ well] gets confused.

Atom can also configured via JSON files. They create their config file as CoffeeScript Object Notation (CSON) by default, but nothing is stopping you from changing it to ~/.atom/config.json

Configuration via JSON is common (Sublime Text, the most popular)

I haven't tried Sublime Text. I was comparing VSCode with Visual Studio, and IDEs I consider to be in the same space like Netbeans and Eclipse.

VS Code is not an IDE, it's an editor (like Sublime Text).

Netbeans and Eclipse are both IDEs.

I disagree. It has smart auto-completion, refactoring, it informs me of errors in my code before I run or compile it, integrated version control, auto-compilation, and many other features.

I use vscode as a Golang IDE. It's pretty comprehensive with the extension that integrates the Go toolchain.

I tried Gogland EAP for a while, and liked it a bit better, but now it's a paid product, I'm happy with vscode (which has 95% of the features I use and 0% of the price).

Man you are so pissed and condescending. Do they make you use Atom at your work or are you really that angry that other people use an editor you don't like?

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