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I hate Ruby On Rails

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13 pointssnitko17 comments

The problems with rails are pretty much universal to frameworks. Frameworks make it easy to do what the framework makes it easy to do, but eventually you end up paying back all that time you saved early on by fighting the framework later when you outgrow it.

This site is irrelevant. If people get to complain about Rails, then they should be doing some programming to

1) fix it (I had 1 patch to Rails by actually found the bug in my app and fixed it, got accepted within a few days. The community is awesome)

2) learn something new instead of wasting time.

3) build something cool to make some good money and quit whining.

Rails is awesome when you actually try to build a complex app. And I'm sick of people complaining about Ruby is so slow and Rails is this or that. My thought? Whatever.

While I agree that they should do 2 and 3, they owe nothing to anyone and don't have to fix anything. A bug report would be nice, but again, they don't have to.

I know a lot of people say that complaining isn't useful if you don't also provide a solution, but that's BS. I've often used complaints to find out what people don't like about a system and formulate a plan to improve it. And I've often received suggestions that not only wouldn't fix the problem, but would destroy the rest of the system.

Complaints should be taken with a grain of salt, but when a lot of people have the same complaint, it bears scrutiny.

If you ignore complaints that don't have suggestions, you'll never know what made people leave, either.

Some of it's true some of it's not. It doesn't really matter one way or another because this site is useless. Spend more time hacking in a framework that you do enjoy instead of bitching about the ones you don't.

I don't usually bother to defend a particular technology choice but most of the arguments are either irrelevant, no longer true or just plain wrong.

"It's not .NET" is the problem with this site - these guys don't seem to understand that they are not the intended audience for Rails nor do they seem to know when to pick the right tool for the right job. Also, have you heard of JRuby?

Chuckle.

That's the best they could come up with? People with more time to complain than brain cells to do it with!

Thanks for the levity. That site made this Ruby developer's day.

This is just counterproductive.

http://ihaterubyonrails.com/posts/34/the-perfect-framework-f...

"Show me one example of a corporate or high-traffic website that uses Rails other than Basecamp."

-yellowpages.com

-hulu.com

-shopify

-kongregate

-github

-justin.tv

-ravelry

the list is actually pretty large nowadays. I don't even code with rails anymore, but this site is a big heaping pile of whiny bullshit

EDIT: formatting

+Scribd +posterous +dozens of other YC companies

- kickstarter

- soundcloud

- NYTimes for election results

- funny or die

- goodreads

- crunchbase

I also chuckled when reading this very post, but some of the others seemed more or less reasonable. The site is useful, because it turns to the opposite side of the goodness of the ruby world and does it with ironically emotional charge. I liked it.

Uh, Twitter?

I left twitter out because it has started departing a bit from pure Ruby on Rails and has had scaling issues from the get go so isn't a really good example when someone is bitching about the abilities of RoR.

Twitter's front-end is still Rails.

and twitter's front end still crashes multiple times a day :)

Big surprise: it's a Python app. Yet more proof that the Python web development community is filled to the brim with trolls. Stuff like this is why I completely stopped contributing to open source Python projects after nearly 10 years.

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