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Not to mention their UX is horrendous. You never hear people wanting to copy their UX. With the size of their company they should be able to produce better.

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That's what happens when you build things in Java.

What does that have to do with anything?

Just about every web-based Java project I've came across carries a certain persona of UX being terrible to navigate, slow to use and all around a negative experience once you try something that just works.

Jenkins comes to mind, Jira of course, and just about any other Java project's website still looks like it is from the 90s.

Maybe that's because they actually are from the 90's? Well, not 90's, but early 00's. And they target the enterprise market.

Also, all the big internet companies use Java, basically. You're using Google, Amazon, Twitter, Netflix, etc. products and you're using Java. Do you also hate those? :)

Furthermore, Java is mostly server side at this point so I'm not sure your UI complaint is really valid...

The problem isn't Java per se but that the UI code becomes fossilized and nobody wants to put in the effort to update it. The same issue happened with Perl and now (to a lesser extent) Rails sites.

Although for Desktop apps Java pretty much always looks uglier than a donkey's ass in a blender.

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