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Not just the pay, H1b employees need to stick around as it's difficult to shift to another company, especially if they are processing green card. Also they tend to work longer hours, as I have seen personally, though that doesn't necessarily produce more quality, but most of the corporates who hire from TCS or other outsourcing firms want 24/7 routine jobs like production support, junior developers or testing. Even for development they use the same stack for decades so there is pretty much nothing more to build or learn, but minor patches and fixes here and there, which is barely interesting for anyone other than who want to stick around for the lack of other opportunities..

p.s. I am from India and have worked in U.S for couple of months for a large bank.

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I think the H1B restrictions you touch on are a big part of the problem. If it was easy for H1B holders to change employers the market would be allowed to correct this. The H1B holders could demand market rate and proper treatment. Right now it's completely distorted.

Unfortunately lot of people fail to see H1B's outside of silicon valley and H1Bs = cheap (indian) IT labor = bodyshops... Many fields demand multidisciplinary knowledge (for eg. automotive) we need people who understand physics (mechanical engineering), signal processing, algorithms, data analysis, programming etc.

There's a huge shortage of people who are willing to dabble in multidisciplinary fields. Step into any automotive company and ask the engineers if they know how to code or use large amounts of data effectively. You will be surprised. I have seen H1B folks overcome tough challenges and put huge amount of effort in making amazing products.

Generalizing and bashing H1B's is not fair, neither is making regulations from SV point of view.

p.s. I work in one of the big 3's. I am on H1B and I have never accepted bare minimum salary. I am not an IT guy.

As a car enthusiast and a system engineer / architect I’d love a shot at working in the car industry. I never see advertisements for those jobs though; they are mythical.

That aside, nobody so far has been bashing H1B’s, on the contrary: all the comments so far are for H1B liberalization (H1B’s should’t be tied to a particular employer) so that the loan dumping could stop and so that competition could take place based on experience and competence.

The problem is greedy managers going after “shareholder value” (their bonuses and promotions) and corrupt politicians who knew the situation and yet didn’t step in.

working in car industry for about 3-4 yrs. I can assure you these jobs are not mythical.

read this article - https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/harman-wants-quiet-ride-u...

skills required - fundamentals of acoustics, vibrations, signal processing, algorithms, coding, managing huge amounts of data, optimization, controls etc.....

this is just one technology. there are many more things that go in a car and are way more complex than active noise cancellation.

Sorry, I did by no means intend to bash H1B visa holders. I agree that it's only a small portion in one particular industry that's causing that perception. That makes it even more important though to not constraint H1B holder's choices artificially.

There is absolutely no bashing of H1B done here. What you say about multidisciplinary knowledge is true. I bet many of the Indian CEOs and co-founders came via H1B itself. But that was not the point. The majority of H1B holders are low paid workers bought here not just because of lack of skills, but also due to low pay and willingness to work shifts etc etc.. We can't deny that.

Yeah, its like a glorified sweatshop. Is it any wonder that these companies don't get any respect.

Don’t let your disgruntled self make generalizations about everybody else. I’m curious what the justice department finds out. In America the law is supreme so just wait for it to conclude instead of making baseless statements in a public form.

He was stating his own experience - so that is his basis. When you work at some place you also see whats going on in there generally. He was not commenting about the "bias" which is what TCS is facing trial for.

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