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This is exactly why I left the US after I graduated. Being on H1B is such a huge gamble these days.

Now I am living in Europe, making good money, and living happily without having to worry about crap like this.

While this is anecdotal it does worry me that we invest (as a society, in the general sense) in educating people in the US and then don’t do enough to keep them here. It should be easy to obtain a permanent work visa after graduating. You’d need controls like perhaps a minimum degree earned, minimum number of credits earned/years in school and approved institutions but it seems feasible. It would do a lot to retain people that not only we’ve invested in, but who (hopefully) have had a chance to integrate culturally at a young age and formed friendships and connections that will help anchor them.

I like to believe that's the plan - get them to US, teach them, force them back home. Truly doing the world a service, Team America!

Foreign students pay higher costs than even out-of-state students. They’re not mooching off the system.

First, I don't really think there is a shortage of college degree-earning people in this country. Second, your plan is just a giveaway to colleges... they can charge whatever they want as gatekeepers to visas earned in the USA.

If only there was a good (emigrant-based a la US, Canada, Australia) and sunny English speaking country in Europe...

I like Ireland too!

well minus sunny but actually good option. Malta is another option with the bonus of nice tax system if you make enough.

Where is it relatively easy to immigrate in Europe? If anything, isn't it harder than the US?

I already have an EU passport. So that makes it easy for me to immigrate to most European countries.

For Indians , Europe is much easier than US, but pays less

How so?

The blue card has barely been enacted, and even in Germany only 7000 have been handed out.

I dont know the ground reality, however as per documentation for SDE jobs paying above 50k EUR or so you get it with a labour market check alone. While in US, you also have a 20 to infinite year waitlist for getting a green card (Indians, EB3).

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