Ask YC: Which OS are you using on your app's server(s)?
For me, I just have a 'play' VPS right now that I'm running Ubuntu 7.10 on. I like Debian-based distros.
For me, I just have a 'play' VPS right now that I'm running Ubuntu 7.10 on. I like Debian-based distros.
Does anybody have experience with Ubuntu Server? While Ubuntu is a great distro for people new into the linux-world and people who just need something that Work's Out Of The Box, are there any advantages over Debian, with the server edition, that is?
most people agree that it's good to develop on the platform you will run in production, but they take it the opposite way (run outdated server software on their development environment).
Ubuntu is great. We decided to go for Ubuntu because at the time we made that decision, Debian was still at 3.1 and very outdated. They have played catchup since then and 4.0 is much more modern (i'm mostly talking about more recent versions of popular stuff like postfix, postgres, mysql, gcc, etc.).
We standardized on 6.06/LTS but I've been also been playing with the 8.04/LTS release that is coming up. Looks very nice and we will probably switch to it. For new installations. Old stuff still runs rock solid.
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Our software runs on millions of servers world-wide running every OS imaginable, and so I'll self-righteously claim the exclusive privilege of making bold pronouncements and expecting everyone just to go along with them.
I recently looked into (Open)Solaris for DTrace and ZFS, but unless I want to put in a lot of time understanding the differences between Solaris and what I'm familiar with (recent GNU/Linux), I don't want to be in an "oh god what do I do something is wrong?!" state. In the end, I don't see enough value in DTrace/ZFS to relearn everything, because in the end it's just infrastructure.
Makes most sense to me, but I have nothing against other oses. Just what I started with and what I keep coming back to.
Both choices were made mostly for the fact that I'm familiar with them, and they seem trustworthy (reliable, lacking gaping security holes out of the box, though I'd hope the latter is the case for most Linux distros as well). While I'd probably enjoy spending time improving my sysadmin-fu, it wouldn't have been a wise way to spend time for either of these projects.
We used CentOS when I started (because it was the EC2 default back then or something), but as we grew everybody seemed to know Debian better, so we switched. I find it's much easier to find and install packages for Ubuntu than it was for CentOS, but I admit that may well be because I'm an idiot (esp. w.r.t. RPMs).
I've had the most enjoyment (surprisingly) with SuSE because of AppArmor's ability to cover holes in flaws for open-source PHP software we used early on. yast is also kind of handy for some of our non-Linux gurus.
At work (I work at a startup), we're using CentOS 5 because that's all that (mt) offers.
I've been looking into Solaris (for ZFS), but debian-based distros is what I know, so it's what I'll use for now.
I'm hoping to move to Windows 2008 and FreeBSD 7 or Ubuntu 7.10 everywhere.
I've deployed it before, it's rock solid, secure and the ports system rocks.
Debian is more stable and just holistically better in my opinion...
I will probably upgrade to the next LTS when it becomes available.
It is called "stable" for a reason, you know.