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>>Mozilla's biggest screw up IMO was failing to disclose properly what was going on.

That was not the only issue

1. Failure to Disclose it before distribution

2. Failure to Properly name or provide any support context to the Add In.

3. Using the "Studies" System designed to improve the technology and advance the web browser for this Adware "Easter egg" not really an Easter egg addin

4. Failure to Publicly Comment about it until a full 72 hours after concerns were raised

5. Deleting and Hiding Bug Reports about the Addin in Bugzilla

6. Failure to adequately respond, apologize, or explain why and how the Studies system was used to distribute this Adware, There blog post so far is woefully inadequate.

7. Failure to disclose what steps are being taken immediately to ensure the Studies system is not abused in this manner in the future

Should I go on? There were many many many failures here, which are compounded by the many other failures Mozilla has had over the last few years.

Then you can go back to chrome or chromium, both of which Google has pushed a binary plugin to that records voice in the past.

Debian had to raise a storm over it and turned into a compile-time only option to not get the microphone listening plugin on your chromium install.

Fine, but that doesn't make the points in the comment you're replying to any less valid. That's... not how it works.

I never left FF, I have been using FF since the very first Beta Releases, I have been using Mozilla Browsers since before FF was even a concept

I support Mozilla on Ideological grounds and it is said they are dropping their Ideology in favor of a pure commercial company.

Speaking for myself, I'm not going back to Chrome over this alone -- I'm pleased with how FF57 handles and enough of Mozilla's positive efforts over time that I'm unlikely to let this event define them if they take steps to make sure it's an anomaly.

But every one of these things seems like legit issues that I'd like to see made an anomaly, and it's conceivable that if Mozilla isn't able to make it crystal clear that they know how to make things go that way, Chrome might well be the right choice.

And enabling the "studies" thing without my permission, which they did.

The real problem imho is that Mozilla hired a wild fox to become its CEO. Before becoming responsible for guidance and stewardship of a free and open internet, the fox primarily spent its time chasing mice and sneaking into chicken coops.

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