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I bet if Elon could turn back the clock he'd skip F9H and going straight to BFR. F9's Payload to LEO numbers have been going up; first design: 10,450 kg, current: 22,800 kg. On paper when Heavy was designed it was 25,000 kg to LEO.

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I'm not sure. There are some things that the FH can do, military and space tourism and maybe a couple other things. Might be worth doing before the BFR, we will have to see how often i launches.

We just don't have the numbers, I would love to see the internal accounting of these projects.

I'd argue that if they put the engineering effort into BFR that much earlier, we might have a vehicle by now that can meet those demands as well as be a much better mars vehicle.

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