MoviePass is changing the value of the movie theater experience
theverge.com
theverge.com
So a service that gave people a reason to go the theater more often while encouraging them to spend more on on high-margin concessions (which the author admits is what he does) seems like a win for theaters.
Perhaps I'm missing something, one thing that drives me crazy nowadays is the sentence that hints at something buried in some link:
> And theater chains, particularly AMC, are [absolutely not on board](link to different article on same site that supports this claim, I assume).
Definitely couldn't have simply mentioned an AMC lawsuit against MoviePass, but why add more supporting facts when that might mean cutting anecdotes about what movies the author is now willing to sit through?
I agree with another commenter, this reads more like an ad, sounds more like MoviePass trying to get people to relate to this guy and become "terrifying" subscribers, just like him!
For a big city theater, there are always customers. But take a more rural cinema, have 60% of the moviegoer population base convert to MoviePass... for the theater, it may see a slight uptick because it isn't that expensive for the users and the cinema still gets the full ticket price. Then imagine MoviePass closing shop - are the 60%, hooked to 10$ or whatever a month while generating twice that in ticket sales, going to come back once MoviePass isn't around any more? There will be a sharp noticeable drop, and this is what scares theater managers. Hell even if it's just 100 people using MoviePass that's $2k in ticket sales a month (given 10$/ticket and 2 movies a month per person), and another $2k a month in sales from soda, popcorn, food and merch.
Especially as outfitting/retrofitting a theater with the newest advancements in dozens-channel audio, 8K 3D digital projections, the newest anti-piracy crap the studios force upon the managers and other stuff is a huge upfront capital investment... I would be scared shitless if I had to do such an upgrade because the customers demand it but I knew at the same time that a lot of the customer base might simply drop off at once due to circumstances way outside of my control.
Sounds like a really bad puff piece.
If the consumer no longer pays $12, or fewer consumers are willing to pay $12, there will be some kind of reckoning higher up the chain between the theaters and the film companies in splitting up the decreased topline revenue.
If MoviePass captures the ticket-buying market in a big way and becomes the gatekeeper for consumer movie-going money, they could feasibly develop direct relationships with distribution companies in the film industry and drastically diminish whatever power theater operators currently have.
As noted by others, there's a common belief theater profit comes largely from concessions. That defines their relationship with the consumer. MoviePass threatens their relationships on the other side, with the film industry, where we are the profitable product.
That's my guess.
Typically in the first week they keep anywhere from 0-25%, but after the first week or two they can be keeping as much as half.
MoviePass is going to be squeezing them for their share.
> because theaters have all decided on a ticket price customers must pay for the premium of that big screen and sound system.
Not really, no. Studios are the ones driving up movie prices since they keep demanding a bigger and bigger cut. The new Star Wars film for example has the highest royalty of any movie ever released.
Moviepass’ success is dependent on the same thing as any subscription model like this. Article author seems unable to recognize that he is a top 1% (maybe even rarer) user of Moviepass and the majority of subscribers will see 1 or sometimes fewer movies per month.
MoviePass has to grow large enough to be able to negotiate deals with studios, like Disney, or raise rates significantly to cover the true cost of the service. If they raise rates too much, they could start hemorrhaging to the individual theater chain programs.
It's a cool service, but it can't last like it is.
The $2.85 small bag of popcorn cost less than a penny in raw material to make. We made minimum wage with no overtime (theaters got a tax loophole back then; not sure if they still do) so even factoring in labor and electricity, it's still a huge profit margin.
Theaters chain execs love it I'm sure. Still even if/when MoviePass goes under, the studios will probably take a small hit for a while, but I'm sure they'll recover.
I think moviepass is targeted at singles who go to movies less than 12 times a year and it helps bring that demography to the theaters, and probably spend more on concessions.
I dont understand why Theater chains are "terrified"
Anyway, at the time there was no way to book tickets online, you just had to show up and if there was space you’d get a ticket. As such I’d usually go on Saturday early afternoon when it was usually pretty quiet.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/robcain/2017/09/17/ceo-mitch-lo...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/robcain/2017/09/18/ceo-mitch-lo...
But if they’re successful at controlling ticket sales I’m just not sure they have enough leverage to keep theaters and studios on board... idk just left scratching my head.
I still haven't gotten a card from them, and I can't login to the system.
(This is in NYC, it may be different by region)
We used to see movies exclusively on Saturdays or Wednesdays, when it’s cheaper, and only went to certain theaters. Now when we decide to see a movie we go whenever we feel like it, wherever we feel like it. We usually bring our own snacks/water too..
We decided to see The Last Jedi at 1:05 AM without any forethought and saw it on a massive screen with Dolby sound.
I can’t get a VC to return my cold calls/emails, but hey, at least a VC is paying for our movies.
The movie you want to see is $19 at the theater down the street vs $9 on the other side of town. Go to the theater down the street with the reclining seats.
We see 3-4 movies a month, MoviePass completely changed the way we think about and scheduled going to the movies. No stress.
the average is $8? seems hard to believe...
Rural != Cheap
The lowest prices are probably in suburban areas where there are many competing theaters in a populated area with easy access.