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What do you mean having a little fun ?

Firefox is bleeding market share and has been for a while. Despite this, revenue and profit is at an all time high for mozilla which is weird as the revenue comes from sending theirs users to google for being profiled and exposed to ads. Meanwhile long time users lose faith and trust in mozilla and firefox.

Not exactly the best time to be caught having "a little fun" move showing that they will sneakily install stuff in your browser without asking.

Then again mozilla is "making far-reaching and very short-sighted decisions in a vacuum."[1]

[1]:http://forums-test.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=14736466#...

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> Firefox is bleeding market share and has been for a while.

http://gs.statcounter.com/

    Chrome            54.98%
    Safari            14.79%
    UC Browser         7.98%
    Firefox            6.09%
    Internet Explorer  3.88%
    Opera              3.79%

In all fairness, Firefox has overtaken IE.

Not really.. Microsoft is killing off internet explorer

Actually chrome and microsoft are responsible for IE hitting the bottom. Look at the following chart from stat counter:

https://andreasgal.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/alldevices-e1...

That all versions of firefox combined barely do better than obsolete unsupported browser that the manufacturer actively try to remove from the market is not a good sign.

non sequitur. either it’s right or it’s wrong, whether or not you like the org as a whole doesn’t change that.

even so to briefly chase your point, do you believe they are doing net good, and some things are looking more positive, like the servo work? my only point is that criticism works on a relative scale. i agree there are things they could do better, but i still prefer they exist.

right/wrong or good/bad are concept derived from organized religions to control populations' beliefs and they are inappropriate in most cases if not all because they are relative to your own beliefs.

If you are the good guy then your enemy is the bad guy but from the bad guy point of view he is the good guy and you are the bad guy.

No one is ever the bad guy in the movie of her own life.

servo, or whatever else they could come up with will never reach a net good for me as I need ALSA support and the extensions mozilla has dropped to make firefox useful to me.

I would rather have them disappear so there is room for something better to exist in its place. Right now there are occupying space and prevents an alternative to emerge.

The sad part of this is that by accumulating blunders, near sighted and far reaching decisions, with their attitude of not caring about user feedback or user freedom of choice they managed to turned me, a long time supporter (since netscape times) that has based part of my business on their browser, against them and wishing they would go away. This is quite a feat in itself. I'm not sure there is another entity that managed to alienate me that much, not even canonical or gnome.

Pulse seems pretty functional now. Did you know it was still possible to build firefox with alsa support?

https://github.com/Monsterovich/firefox-fuckpa

It seems like a lot of addons are being ported to the new apis too. Maybe you are too hasty?

There would be "rioting in the streets" of the internet if Mozilla ever decided to drop support for ALSA in Firefox.

There are distros, Void Linux (which I am using right now) for one, which ship without pulseaudio (or systemd for that matter) installed by default, thank goodness.

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