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I'm in the opposite camp: I stopped using FB because all friends were posting pictures of their kids, family, trips, parties, whatever. I really don't understand how people can post such things to FB.

I don't care what their kids ate today or how they fell asleep. I don't care that they bought a new phone and now posting pictures of it. I think all that stuff is personal and shouldn't be exposed to the public.

But I wish I could open FB and read political and tech news (no fakes please).

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But ... why? You can read political and tech news anywhere why read it on Facebook? The only thing I want to see on Facebook are the things I can't see elsewhere which are: personal updates and local events.

Because Facebook is uniquely positioned to show you news that aligns with your views (or is opposed to your views- is there an option for that?)

Uniquely? Do you really have a hard time finding news sources that align with your views? This has been a solved problem since the invention of the newspaper.

Facebook knows alot more about your views than the New York times does.

How is that a good thing for where you get your news? It is one of those things where it is probably better that you are getting an objective (not crafted for you) selection of the contemporary news instead of one that's filtered for you.

That's exactly the problem with politics in today's society. So many people are getting their information from places like Facebook, and much (most?) of this information is biased and/or less than factual. This causes people to develop more extreme, more polarized viewpoints than they would otherwise have.

Because FB collects so much data about everyone and it would be nice to have personalized news, events, articles in your feed. Instead of using websites that show the same thing for everyone.

But they use all that data to show me pictures of crappy food, kids, drunk parties and stupid FB game ads.

FB doesn't optimize for enriching you, or even for agreeing with you - it's optimized for engaging you. If a barely-lucid rant comming out of a political faction you hate will mindworm you, that's what they'll show you.

Apparently their optimization strategy failed to engage in this instance.

>Instead of using websites that show the same thing for everyone.

But that's a good thing. It sounds like you WANT to be ensconced in a political bubble. People splitting off into echo chambers is a major source of the problems we see today.

Yah, the only thing I really like on facebook is pictures of friends hiking and backpacking trips. Some of the hiking groups also have great content and relatively recent info on trail conditions that is hard to find elsewhere.

>>The only thing I want to see on Facebook are the things I can't see elsewhere which are: personal updates and local events.

You can only get personal updates on Facebook?

What a strange thing to say.

I think it's fairly accurate. If you have a couple dozen (or 100) friends scattered around the world, it's a lot easier to see pictures of their kids or new kitchen on a Social Media platform than to try to call them every day.

Why do you feel like you need to see pictures of their kids and new kitchen if they are scattered all over the world?

Does it make you feel like you care about them?

I can't legitimately care about 20 people living in 20 different parts of the world?

That's not what I meant.

Here's what I'm getting at: if you really cared about someone, you wouldn't settle for the bare minimum of passively consuming their uploaded photos and status updates.

I posit that Facebook is popular among people with scattered friends and relatives because it makes them feel like they care. However, in my opinion, truly caring about someone warrants more than just maintaining an awareness of what is going on in their lives by consuming their content on your news feed and occasionally clicking 'Like' or posting a comment.

In terms of social media, yes, it's the only place that will tell me that my high school friend is getting married. And to a large extent it's the only thing I will ever find that out from, depending on who we are talking about. In other words, the social updates that I go to Facebook for are updates that I cannot get elsewhere.

You "don't understand" how people can have a desire to share pictures of their children with friends and family members who care about them? No one cares that you "don't care what their kids ate today" - just stop following them or unfriend them.

You've got it backwards -- FB is for staying in touch with people digitally (i.e. the pictures of their friends and family). There are a plethora of other sites better suited for reading political and tech news (HN being an example)

I find Google photos to be much better at sharing photos and videos with family and friends. Photos are posted to specific shared albums. People who may care are invited those albums, those that don't care don't accept. They get notified when there are new ones and can make limited comments. I like that it is just a place to share/view photos - I don't need a million other features or distractions.

News - anywhere but FB.

So what do I use FB for? Local groups, the community, yard sale, a few for specific interests. I might check it weekly.

> But I wish I could open FB and read political and tech news

RIP Google Reader

I agree - posting pictures of your children on facebook or any social network (assuming they are young enough to not understand or care) is doing something against their will. Who knows how facebook/government is going use this data in the future, and how it will affect them down the road.

Disclaimer: I have no kids, and im not on facebook

> is doing something against their will

kids have no will, legally speaking, until they are not minors.

going to school is often 'against their will' as well, few argue that forcing them to go is an abuse of parental power..

that said, this is a different topic and of course you have a point.

> I really don't understand how people can post such things to FB.

I live 10k kilometers away from my family, so posting those things to Facebook is an easy way to keep each other up-to-date with our daily lives.

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