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While they are decidedly bearish on Tesla, dailykanban's analysis is worth reading. They know one thing (auto manufacturing) and they know it really well. Their comments on just how mismatched Tesla's public statements and private actions are is damning...even if it sometimes feels a bit like potshots.

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It is very potshotish. Comparing production hell to a 75% increase in stock isn't really a fluid argument. They should stick to the manufacturing bits. Otherwise, enjoyed the read.

"Comparing production hell to a 75% increase in stock"

It highlights the degree of misinformation and hype among analysts etc.

Both Bertel & Ed were writers/editors at The Truth About Cars. TTAC is a fabulous website if you're interested in the auto industry, but their perspective and target demo is mainly the automotive sales industry. Dealers and the supporting network around them.

Their anti-Tesla bias is strong and well-documented. They've had legitimate criticisms but take what they say with a grain of salt.

Might be more properly titled "Why this factory in China is 10x better than Tesla's" Factory. As folks have noted, not entirely off base, but not at all an article about the Volvo factory.

The article is about a Volvo factory in China.

"... that is for x reasons better than the Tesla factory", the title just doesn't let the reader know that's the angle

I'm not making comments about the validity of the article, but I do want to point out that a quick google search of the author seems to imply that he is pretty much universally disliked.

Google search results are not designed to be a representative sample of opinion.

Sure, I just meant to imply that the article should be read with the knowledge that the author is pretty controversial.

Repeating truths usually does get someone upset.

So does reporting untruths. That people are upset isn't a measure of truth either way.

So dozens of plant workers all have more or less the same told experience about the human indignities of labor in Tesla facilities but the untruth goes "either way"? That doesn't seem honest of you.

I wasn't trying to say that the article itself was true or untrue - just that if people were upset about the reporting, that doesn't say anything about the accuracy of the article one way or the other.

It’s easy for a determined interest to throw up enough smoke to make anything seem controversial — like evolution.

Some controversial things are genuinely problematic but not all of them are.

Disliked doesn't mean wrong. He caught a LOT of flack for an article he wrote that was critical of the Chevy Volt, especially from GM insiders.

How accurate is that article?

if it is the 2010 article it was a bit ridiculous by bringing up every anti bailout reference possible to take away from a vehicle and comparing it to other cars when it was really a first of its kind; an EV with a REX.

I own a 2nd generation Volt and love it, never really cared for the styling or interior of the first generation but mostly because the range of the first attempt fell short of my needs. My current Volt solves both my problems, I have the ability to go all electric on my commute of 54 miles round trip if not 10 more in summer. I can go any long distance trip I want and not worry about being stranded or having to wait an hour or more for a recharge even 200 less miles.

https://dailykanban.com/2010/07/g-m-s-electric-lemon/

Wow, I remember this article at the time.. But what a profoundly even more misinformed article in retrospect. Looking at the Gen 2 Volt, the total sales numbers for both generations, the quality of the car, the fact that it put GM ahead in terms of many others R&D on battery vehicles... What a foolish article.

As a 2014 Chevy Volt owner, it is far from Lemon.

Here are the most interesting Gen I volt stats (currently at 416K miles and still running strong) https://www.voltstats.net/Stats/Details/1579

Given Volt has a decent battery, I would bet an average volt will have a life time around 300K. Its has its shortcoming in terms passenger space and styling, but its a work horse!

Very inaccurate. The 1st generation Volt has a reputation of having very high quality. Especially compared to other GM cars.

The 2nd generation it remains to be seen. Mine seems good so far.

I guess what I was implying is that he is not known for his professionalism. In fact he primarily known for his lack there of.

The authors (specifically, Ronnie Schreiber) that worked under Bertel also wrote multiple, glowing articles showering praise on Elio motors and basically secured them many of their preorders...

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