Jeez. First curl and now q?
Well, if Microsoft isn't going to give a fuck about implied trademarks, and just aim to be as confusing as possible, I think we can introduce the "windows programming language"...
Well, if Microsoft isn't going to give a fuck about implied trademarks, and just aim to be as confusing as possible, I think we can introduce the "windows programming language"...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_(programming_language_from_K...
If so, honestly seems kind of esoteric and I'm not really offended by Microsoft using that letter.
Which is a bit unfortunate, because (APL-like) array languages, of which Q appears to be one of the more approachable/popular, have a lot of very interesting ideas that I think mainstream languages could benefit from. Their unpopularity is self-inflicted due to the wacky syntax, of course.
Q# is more esoteric than Q is.
Has far fewer users, and in every way less of a claim to the name.
... just like "curl".
> I'm not really offended by Microsoft using that letter
Okay, but I am. Now what?
No. C# has some relationship with C and C++ and it's clear that Microsoft wants us to think about the C-ness of C# when we see the "C" in C#; C's implied trademark is being respected here.
Now my turn for a sincere question:
If someone gets the name "curl" and everyone in a market understands that name means something, and someone comes around and uses the name for something else[1], why do you think that's okay?
[1]: http://web.archive.org/web/20160819042745/https://github.com... (archive.org link since github is taking a long time to load)
I never said it was ok. I actually didn't know about this until this thread and didn't know the details until I read the link you posted. I think that is shady and wrong. On top of that, curl is so popular that it is hard to believe those who implemented that command in Powershell did not know about that already.
That said, when it comes to a language it is entirely possible for people to not know that a language Q already exists. Also, it is going to be hard to confuse the two languages when searching for resources, since majority of people looking for Q# resources are going to actually be typing in "Q#" and not "Q". On top of that, Q being the first letter in quantum and it being a language designed for quantum computing makes sense. Plus they add their signature # at the end which they seem to like to do for new languages (J#, C#, F#). Unlike curl, I see very little malice in the naming of the Q# language
EDIT: I have another sincere question for you: What are your thoughts on the J[0] and J#[1] programming language names? Microsoft created J# as a bridge between Java and Visual J++ to transition to .NET. This was in 2002, 12 years after the J programming language first appeared.
I don't buy it.
https://www.bing.com/search?q=q+programming+language
> it is going to be hard to confuse the two languages when searching for resources, since majority of people looking for Q# resources are going to actually be typing in "Q#" and not "Q".
Again, I don't buy it.
https://www.bing.com/search?q=q%23+programming+language
Try harder.
> they add their signature # at the end which they seem to like to do for new languages (J#, C#, F#).
which follow Java, C, and System F.
Searching `q#` vs `q` seems to bring up the same results for me.
That in no way negates my point. It's not a question of which is more obscure, but that the 'original' item is obscure in the first place.
One unknown language reusing part of another's name means that nobody's gonna be legitimately confused or misled here. Moreover, they derive practically no benefit whatsoever by piggybacking on the (limited) fame of the 'original'. Curl is a different story altogether.
I thought you were genuinely confused as to why I was offended and was responding as such.
I had no idea that you believed your lack of opinion and offence somehow invalidated mine.
> One unknown language reusing part of another's name means that nobody's gonna be legitimately confused or misled here
I'm not going to agree that q is generally "unknown" just because you don't know what it is.
Not at all. Your opinion is hilarious, but everyone's entitled to an opinion.