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> “Existing CMSs are like the MS-DOS of the internet,” Konietzke said. “No one really likes to use them, similar to older payment systems before Stripe.”

What a ridiculous statement. Wordpress is so much more popular than Contentful. The vast majority of publications don't need a headless CMS. It's literally half the value proposition of Wordpress (since they have a REST API).

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Yeah, I can't see them being worth that much money. Between WP and Drupal's Contenta distribution (http://www.contentacms.org/), you can deploy a free open source system that's way more extendable than a proprietary system ever will.

Yep, with commodity developers. Never heard of Contenta before, sure wish it was around at my job where we rolled our own headless Drupal v5.

End-users clearly love to use them (Wordpress esp.), but if the statement was rephrased as "no developer likes to implement or support them" it might be more plausible.

That statement is honestly not without controversy either. Outside of the HN crowd, do you know how easy it is to find Wordpress developers? They all can't possibly hate it.

Headless CMSs are definitely preferred by some front-end /mobile devs who develop apps and publications. But that is a really, really small group compared to web developers and CMS users overall.

I'd suggest that WP developers exist because of the demand for WP developers and not because they enjoy it. How many people would be doing boring CRUD if it didn't earn them money?

Plenty of people?

Boring is good.

Boring means I don't get phone calls at 11PM on a Saturday night.

Boring means work isn't my life.

99% of people in this Earth are doing jobs because it earns them money.

Lot's of people are developers because they like building things, solving business problems, understanding users technical needs... I'm amazed that you think the only kind of satisfaction people can derive from their work is by constantly chasing the new and shiny.

There are other communities they could go to. There are plenty of other thriving PHP communities that you could move to, like Laravel or even Drupal. I just don't know how you look at all these successful communities that have lots of talent, conferences, meetups, etc and say "wow they all must hate wordpress"

Maybe the comparison is more against "Enterprise CMS"? Like Alfresco, Documentum, Liferay, etc?

This is something I'm less familiar with but it seems like these have APIs as well?

http://docs.alfresco.com/5.0/concepts/API-intro.html

Maybe now I see what they're saying about being "Stripe." Many headless CMS already exist, that's not what they're innovating on. They're claiming that they have a simple UX like Stripe, compared to other solutions.

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