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Hilarious.

We also need to put pressure on them to simplify and close loopholes in the 400 page net neutrality document.

I think an NRA-styled non-partisan single issue internet freedom organization is needed to put pressure on our elected officials. It's amazing how much politicians fear the NRA, I wish we could get them to fear eroding our freedom.

Cloudflare's example is also a great reason why we also need to enforce neutrality on more than just the ISP to keep the internet free and open. The whole system from DNS providers, hosting, and other major internet companies need to have neutrality enforced on them.

Edit: Adding Source https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/03/12/392544534...

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> We also need to put pressure on them so simplify and close loopholes in the 400 page net neutrality document.

What 400 page net neutrality document?

If you are referring to the 300-400 page document that contains the 2015 Open Internet order that Pai and others have been fond of waving around as an example of how the 2015 rules were massive, complicated, micromanaging overregulation, they were not being entirely honest.

That document actually consists of a long discussion of net neutrality from a historical, legal, and policy standpoint and an explanation of why they picked the rules that they did, a long response to issues raised in the millions of comments received during the public comment period, and the actual regulations.

The actual regulations are about 8 pages.

Any chance you have a link handy?

Here is the 400 page document that I think is usually the one being waved around.

The first link is from the FCC site, but has been slow lately, so I've also given a link to a copy at scribd.

https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-15-24A1.pd...

https://www.scribd.com/document/258492433/Full-net-neutralit...

Note: the page numbers in the table of contents are way off. Apparently the TOC was generated for printing in either a large font or on smaller sheets. In the following I will give page numbers as printed at the bottom of the pages of the scribd version. The FCC version bottom of page numbers are 5600 higher than the scribd version, so if I say page X, that is page X+5600 in the FCC version. In other words the numbering runs 1-400 in the scribd version, and 5601-6000 in the FCC version.

The actual rules are in APPENDIX A, "Final Rules". This starts on page 283 and ends on 290.

Is that not the EFF?

EFF isn't single issue.

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