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> I don't think non-Europeans should waltz in and install a totally foreign system of property and governance, and then make a special effort to fuck over those Europeans who still try to maintain a semblance of their former way of life at the margins of the new regime.

These are quite extraordinary and inflammatory claims to be made without significant evidence.

Edit: I see you have created a strawman by combining the GPs post about Europe with the Hawaii zuckerberg situation.

Edit 2: and despite the fear mongering of the cultural far right in Europe (and the US) neither is any situation like the native Hawaiians via a vis Zuckerberg.

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Zuck is no Claus Spreckels, Lorrin Thurston, or John L. Stevens (do I really have to review the history for you?), but he didn't have to hire those lawyers to invent that novel abuse of the courts. An abuse, incidentally, that is an option for rich haole assholes and not for the average native Hawaiian. This "rich people must take every unethical-but-legal advantage they can, otherwise the sky will fall" idea would embarrass a decent person.

[EDIT:] That's how threaded discussion works. Greenbean responded to me, then I responded to him. Your misunderstanding stemmed from the fact that like many who would maintain racist advantages, you've forgotten that the past is still with us.

> Zuck is no Claus Spreckels, Lorrin Thurston, or John L. Stevens (do I really have to review the history for you?),

You're mistaken in thinking I'm defending Zuckerberg's legal shenanigans in Hawaii. I'm well aware of how the US was literally built via racist economic and governmental institutions, indigenous people's genocide, and that the effects are still with us.

Instead, I'm addressing your strawman about something similar happening to Europeans by non-Europeans, which just isn't true.

> and despite the fear mongering of the cultural far right in Europe (and the US) neither is any situation like the native Hawaiians via a vis Zuckerberg.

I think you misread GP's comment. I don't think it's about the modern immigration waves in Europe. Nobody over there is "living at the margins of the invaders' new regime". That's a clear description of the America's natives' plight.

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