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EA now has the most downvoted comment of Reddit history

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  Seriously? I paid 80$ to have Vader locked?

The comment is:

> The intent is to provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment for unlocking different heroes.

> As for cost, we selected initial values based upon data from the Open Beta and other adjustments made to milestone rewards before launch. Among other things, we're looking at average per-player credit earn rates on a daily basis, and we'll be making constant adjustments to ensure that players have challenges that are compelling, rewarding, and of course attainable via gameplay.

> We appreciate the candid feedback, and the passion the community has put forth around the current topics here on Reddit, our forums and across numerous social media outlets.

> Our team will continue to make changes and monitor community feedback and update everyone as soon and as often as we can.

There was another post which “did the math” a few days ago: unlocking a hero would take around 40 hours of play, modulo a few challenges and other purchases. There was concern about loot boxes and micro transactions affecting gameplay; I feel it’s safe to say those concerns were justified.

Just ran some very approximate numbers for League of Legends. That's also ~40 hours of play to unlock one new hero, except League gives large bonuses for the first win of the day and lowers prices for old characters as new ones are released. And offers a rotating lineup of free characters to try them out. And frequent missions that speed things up.

So... this $80 game is slightly less accessible than a free game where "access to all characters" was never part of the expectation. That's rough.

To make an even harsher comparison, Dota 2 is free, all characters and gamemodes, sans cosmetics.

Since Disney / Starwars is probably in control of cosmetics (No green lightsaber for Vader allowed) the only way for these microtransactions is via these unlocks.

They bundled up the microtransactions / unlocks and built a game around it

Slightly off topic but I swore off EA games in the mid-2000s due to customer hostile behaviour. A few years later it was Rockstar due to GTA4 DRM.

It's been really difficult not playing some of the big games, especially GTA5, but I just don't need that kind of stress in my life. Games are supposed to be fun.

Agreed. Sadly, the big-name publishers (EA, Activision, Ubisoft, Zenimax) are all pretty hostile and they've bought the majority of studios, so its reeeeeally hard to avoid them. I try, but sometimes I fail. Sometimes I don't even realise I failed until later. I did buy exclusively indie games for a while, though.

Here you have the direct link to the post with Downvotes counters: https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/7cff0b...

207K when writing this! What a day to be alive!

-217k points when I started reading -219k points now

this thing is falling faster than Bitcoin. it should be the very Wikipedia definition of schadenfreude.

It couldn't matter less, people will still buy the game (and other EA products).

Yes! Here another interesting post: https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/7cji8a...

> To clarify, you shouldn't feel like EA is "ignoring" you. They aren't. It's actually worse than them ignoring you.

Impressive. The whole thing is worth reading!

I am reminded of I don't care what the newspapers say about me as long as they spell my name right.

https://www.nku.edu/~turney/prclass/readings/3eras1x.html

Seems Reddit is taking measures about?

https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/7cddyo/whats_...

I went straight to the comment without seeing this one. It seems that they are threatening to ban people for brigading, even though they may never see the warning, and even if they are truly voting accordingly because they agree or disagree with it. That's a bit messed up to me, especially considering they can just lock it. Although, I suppose a reddit ban wouldn't be the worst thing for productivity.

Understood, thanks you for the clarifications. I'm not a Reddit user.

How does the account have positive karma at this point?

Integer rollover?

It's been years since I've been active on Reddit, but I believe that, unlike HN, comment scores don't affect karma, only submissions.

You have separate counters for submissions and comments.

Comment scores do affect karma, but the amount is softcapped. The more downvotes you get, the less each individual downvote counts towards your karma. It doesn't kick in until you're past a handful of downvotes, so a score of -5 will still drop your karma by 5, but a score of -50 won't drop your karma by the full 50.

If a comment is controversial (i.e. it gets both a lot of upvotes and a lot of downvotes) but still negative (e.g. you got 300 downvotes and 200 upvotes), you can even end up gaining karma overall because upvotes aren't softcapped the same way.

There are two types of Karma, post and reply. However, both up and downvotes seem to have diminishing returns on your account totals even if they show up as the full amount on the post. I know I've had a few posts that got 300+ points but only impacted my account total by like 100 or 150.

>comment scores don't affect karma, only submissions.

false. there are separate karma counters for submissions and comments.

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