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"opaque, obtuse, and obscure" is a red herring.

Imagine, Intel were a Russian company. Tomorrow, there would be a simple and clear [screaming] headline similar to "Russians hacked the election" (general public doesn't need to know or understand how the network, computers or elections actually work). The day after tomorrow it would be illegal to buy anything Intel.

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Elections have almost certainly been hacked - the security on electronic voting machines is abysmal - and no one seems to care, so I think your 'Russians hacked the elections' example doesn't say what you meant.

There are economic sanctions against Russia. There are no sanctions against Intel. I meant what I said.

The Russian trade sanctions are about their activities in Ukraine, not about the last US presidential elections. Besides, there's plenty of evidence of domestic tampering with US election results and comparatively little done as a result. If election fraud was a big enough issue to effectively stop Moore's Law dead in its tracks then you'd expect much more activity around election fraud without that level of economic impact.

A successful SQL injection probe that does not intentionally or otherwise result in data modification would be unusual, beyond the simple 1 == 1 methods.

The DREs don't seem to have been a target, though the physical and OPSEC vectors are quite well known at this point.

I'm not commenting on the information operations or the loose and ambiguous langauge that has been used to describe these events.

What do you think the headline about Intel be in Russian media?

Most likely they will be quiet because Russia is 100% dependent on foreign technology.

Not the military.

They must be decades behind, then. I don't think in-house Russian engineering capabilities have been competitive let alone ahead of the consumer electronics curve going back at least a decade in the of fabrication. Maybe when it was 1997 and everything was DIP.

I'll negate this by taking the opposite position, and similarly having no facts or references.

MCST make stuff used by russian military. see e.g. Elbrus chips https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elbrus-2S%2B

The idea I commented on was to ban Intel chips. Russia cannot do that, military or not. The military accounts for a fraction of a fraction of tech that Russia depends on.

And the military are also dependent on foreign technology. If not for CPUs inside tanks and planes, then for CPUs inside command center computers. (and not just CPUs)

Intel ME is not new. You don't need to imagine it, you could google it.

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