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If all we do here in Europe is giving subsidies to each other and living off that, who or what is then creating all that value in the first place?

Debt. https://www.debtclocks.eu/public-debt-and-budget-deficits-co... Not that the US is any better...

Unlike the USA I suppose.

The popular vote was for Hillary Clinton by almost 3 million. 66 million Democrats vs 63 million Republicans, FYI.[1]

[1]http://time.com/4608555/hillary-clinton-popular-vote-final/

I was referring to the extensive subsidies and regulatory capture in the USA. I have no opinion nor do I particularly care about it being “democratic” or “republican”

> It's ridiculous how democrat Hacker News is.

Why?

Because the comment section gets terribly one-sided and emotional.

> It's ridiculous how democrat Hacker News is.

That's because it is international. What is considered "democrat" in the US is pretty much "obvious common sense" in the rest of the world.