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cmon guys, lets not start mutating into digg. i started frequenting HN because the content and community is much better. lets try and keep some standards.

i think its safe to assume that most people here also at least scan digg, so if its on there, and you're thinking "ooh boy HN would love this!", odds are, we're all loving it already as we see it on digg, just like you. so leave it on digg, unless its topically relevant. please.

(for reference, i'm saying this because this image was frontpaged on digg yesterday-ish.).

The question is, who voted this up? That's really who you're annoyed with.

this link sucks, but i definitely don't visit digg

same here. I don't go to digg.

wow that's a lot of upvotes for not saying anything interesting.

Believe it or not, some of us don't visit Digg. As for the relevance of the post, I think it is relevant enough. No one forced you to click on the link btw.

If you think this is relevant I don't see why you'd avoid Digg.

thats why i used the word "most" instead of "all".

and you can use the same argument you made to justify posting lolcats or porn. there's a line somewhere, and all i'm saying is that i think that its being crossed more and more lately, this one being a more blatant one.

cmon guys, lets not start mutating into digg. i started frequenting HN because the content and community is much better. lets try and keep some standards.

Oh, let's.

  cmon   ...  C'mon,
  guys,  ...  guys: or guys.
  lets   ...  let's
  i      ...  I
  lets   ...  Let's

But who am I to criticize? Obviously, 21 people and counting upmodded your rambling complaint, and ultimately it's the community itself that decides what is or isn't good.

Ugh. Please don't. I don't like Windows either, but this is a bad joke and I've seen too many variations on it. I don't want this sort of stuff cluttering up HN; I thought we were above that.

A down-vote button would have been useful here.

An old joke, re-hashed. Adds nothing to what is currently a very valid debate. Screams rampant fanboy-ism and ultimately isn't very funny. Worse (as stated before), it won't even compile.

I am tired of people bashing Windows! Enough already. Your customers are using Windows, and that is all that matters.

Anyone in the business of creating software (including online apps) must support Windows. It can not be ignored, and should be taken quite seriously.

Your customers are using Windows, and that is all that matters.

My customers aren't using Windows.

... ok, I don't have any customers yet. But when I launch, FreeBSD and Linux will be the only supported operating systems (with other BSDs to follow as soon as someone cares enough to ask for them; and OS X on the near-term to-do list). Windows is too expensive to support; and in any case, people who care about security probably aren't using Windows anyway.

people who care about security probably aren't using Windows anyway

I can assure you that the DoD cares about security. I am curious about why Windows would be "too expensive" to support.

I am curious about why Windows would be "too expensive" to support.

Two reasons: 1. With system files, file locking, the registry, and similar complications, Windows makes backup software far more complicated than necessary -- in this case, "expensive" means "it would take a long time to write all the necessary code". 2. Windows users are generally less clueful, and therefore require more time-consuming hand-holding.

EDIT: There's also another benefit to starting with FreeBSD: Many FreeBSD users know and trust the project's security officer, while most Windows users haven't a clue who I am. :-)

"2. Windows users are generally less clueful, and therefore require more time-consuming hand-holding."

And you earnestly believe that forcing them to use BSD would make them somehow better able to grok computing?

Not at all. I'm not saying that I want my customers to use FreeBSD -- I'm saying that I don't want customers who use Windows.

I'm sorry but it's difficult for me to take a laughable platform "quite seriously". (granted, Windows is a great platform for games).

I can tell you I won't support Windows and will ignore it for the foreseeable future. I'm making web apps, for fuck's sake! (And if IE wants my support, then it just has to support standards better and my site will automagically support it, for the most part).

I think this is a dangerous position to take of you want to run a business.

In business it's about doing something that your customers want, and if they run IE as their browser they want your site to work on their computers. If it doesn't they will find one that does.

Sad but true. Unless your market is extremely computer-savvy, you will lose business by not supporting IE. You might be able to get away with "for best performance, use something else", but if major features don't work, it will hurt you.

I'm not up to date on the current Windows OS or IE marketshare. I am pretty certain it is still in the high 90s for both. If you're comfortable ignoring that portion of the market, good luck to you.

High 90s? The problem is too many people continue to think that IE/Windows is still the only platform that matters.

Im pretty sure hes missing a bracket at the end. Although thats probably intentional :)

ebukys: There's always a Mac

Cute. I'm kind of irritated, I want to get a new laptop but I'm going to have to go through and get rid of Vista, as it's the standard Windows operating system now...

And I can't stand it.

Anyone else also boycotting Microsoft Office 2007?

I don't see having to "get rid of" vista as that big a deal. It's probably not that hard to install whatever operating system you'd rather have. If you were objecting to paying for it, that might get you a little more sympathy here.

Lenovo offers some[0] Thinkpad models with SuSE preloaded. Apples all come with OS X. Those are probably the most popular laptops among news.yc members. Dell offers Ubuntu on certain home models and Redhat on certain business models. I think a few other manufacturers will sell you a laptop with something other than Windows. It's also still possible to find XP on a machine or two.

[0] Unfortunately, it's only a few specific models.

I beta tested MS Office 2007. I actually liked it. The new UIs for Word and Excel are much better than the old UIs. My XP machine is dead though, so I now use my Mac for everything.

Just buy from somewhere that is know to offer a refund on the Windows tax easily, provides their systems with no OS preloaded or something like the Dell Ubuntu offerings.

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