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Here we have a glaring example of the issue. You use feelings instead of data to make your point, the problem is your anecdotal assertions are not backed up by reality. 90% of those killed by police were armed.

So far this year 15 African Americans have been killed while unarmed to 21 White Americans and the numbers are similar for the previous years where data is available

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shoo...

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It is about Ratios WillyOnWheels except police aren't killing a bunch of people for no apparent reason, so ratios will never be one to one based on racial data alone.

More than 90% of police homicide victims were armed, the vast majority of them were during the commission of a crime.

Do we want to go over violent crime stats and how that relates to the likelihood you will be killed by police.

It is your half-assed attempt to apply normative statistics to a non-normative issue that shines a light upon your ignorance and all who parrot the same statement without ever delving into the data

Of course the numbers are irrefutable, so down vote away

It's about ratios.

There are about 220 million White Americans. Your data claims 392 White Americans have been killed police in 2017 so far.

There are about 35 million Black Americans. Your data claims 190 Black Americans have been killed by police in 2017 so far.

If Black Americans were killed by police hypothetically at the same rate as White Americans, 62 Black Americans would be dead.

Do you see the huge disparity there?

What you analysis fails to factor in is the number of crimes committed by each. In that regard blacks commit far more crimes then whites.

Or Blacks get charged far more than whites, or that Blacks are policed more heavily, or that it has to do with poverty more than skin color, etc.

The issue is that the data can't be conclusive unless you have an issue where you took two groups of people, gave them the same economic starting point, gave them the same systemic disadvantage, same opportunities and then could make a determination as to whether or not it has anything to do with culture.

Or you could easily look into the fact that economically there is a long history of repressing people of color and that systemic collection of repressions them still exist leading to the exact outcome expected, but still blame those people for "not picking themselves up by their bootstraps". It's as though you haven't seen Trading Places.

It seems pretty consistent with murder victim data. Even though Chicago is 32% black and 43% white, the vast vast majority of murder victims are black and occur in mostly black neighborhoods. I would think that police interactions with crime would follow this trend too.

https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/2017-chicago-murders

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