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Again, you’re trying to move the frame of the discussion in ways that are hiding the actual costs. Again, the purpose of propaganda isn’t to convince people to switch their votes, it was to portray CPI ton as a criminal in ways that would energize conservatives and discourage liberals.

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I'll have to trust you on this. Our voter turnout was pretty much exactly like it was in 2012 which was just a bit lower than 2008. I live in a purple state, maybe that's the difference? I'm not really sure because, from here, I can't even see the propaganda having had any of the effects you've claimed.

I'll trust you. I doubt you have any motive to be dishonest. It just seems pretty different from what I see - both by the published results and by my experiences talking with people.

Also, I am guessing CPI ton is Clinton and autocorrected?

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