Comment by delhanty | Hacker News Reader

Comment by delhanty | Hacker News Reader

Have no love for Facebook but: The Guardian would publish this wouldn't they?

This is a good idea by former editor (1975-95 [1]) Peter Preston: move The Guardian back to Manchester from London and trim the wage bill in the process. [2]

Perhaps then they might slow the cash burn of their Scott "Trust" endowment (£838.3m 2015) ... [3]

Also, if they weren't quite so London centric they might be less surprised by "events" outside their Facebook bubbles like Brexit and Trump.

I write the above as someone born in London, but now an expat (Japan) who voted against Brexit, but wasn't surprised or offended that others didn't.

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/profile/peterpreston

[2] https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/apr/09/guardian-manch...

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Scott_Trust_Limited

The Guardian has been pushing the line that non-Guardian news sources are 'dangerous for democracy' for a long time now. Other similar publications like the NYT have the same viewpoint.

It's impressive double think: what they mean is, exposure to views they disagree with might cause people to vote against things Guardian writers like and for things Guardian writers dislike, therefore, it's important that such people are not exposed to "wrong" views. The assumption that the Guardian can't or shouldn't argue against those views is held very deep - if they took opposing views seriously and tried to engage in debate, that would "legitimise" such views or worse, they might lose the argument.

I used to be a Guardian reader. I read it religiously around the time Snowden's stuff was getting published there. But I came to find it manipulative and extremist. The amount of vitriolic hate they publish in their comment is free section is very disturbing. If they go bankrupt I won't miss them.

This.

The publishing that they did concerning Snowden was important for journalistic freedom.

All that stuff stopped after Katherine Viner became editor in 2015.

I do read it occasionally - just have uBlock Origin picker handy each time her face pops up begging for funds ...

Yes, I noticed a sharp drop in quality after Rusbridger left too.

Likewise at the Economist. Once Micklethwaite left and was replaced by Minton Beddoes the stories became much less neutral.

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