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There goes /r/The_Donald/

No, they're still there, and no, everyone who disagrees with you isn't a Nazi.

> we will take action against any content that encourages, glorifies, incites, or calls for violence or physical harm against an individual or a group of people

This also means that people who encourage you to "punch a Nazi" or that there's nothing wrong with punching a Nazi/racist should also be banned.

That place promotes violence and hate on a daily basis.

If by hate you mean people with dissenting opinions.

This has some examples: https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/53d5xb/what-is-rt...

Every time I've been to that subreddit, it only takes perusing the comments for 5 minutes to find way worse stuff. From people being openly racist, to people calling for Hillary Clinton to be raped, etc. Bunch of great people, really :\

I browse T_D frequently and I have not once seen someone calling for HRC to be raped. I'm not saying it never happened but I'm curious 1) how upvoted the commment was and 2) how you've glanced at the site for 5 minutes and saw something that I missed after having browsed the site since 2015

The post was on the front page of r/t_d, so I'm assuming it was fairly upvoted, and had plenty of comments from people supporting the spirit of the message. I remember linking it somewhere else on Reddit, to show just how vile the subreddit was (it was during one of the many discussions like this that try to portray r/t_d as a "high energy subreddit for fans only!")

Nope.

Not at all.

/r/conservative is perfectly fine, as is /r/politics.

/r/The_Donald is effectively 4chan.

Care to give some evidence for your claims?

Go to the sub and click the first post you see.

Evidence provided.

edit: Here is the first non-stickied post I found.

https://g.redditmedia.com/lWzOghJ9C76p2rMmU3CDWhHTtojbXJ9vlu...

> Here is Hillary Clinton shitting herself on 9/11

> Did PETA publicly complain about the handling of that cattle?

> THE SIDE OF BEEF MARRIED A RAPIST!!!

> Hope she had her shitting pants on

First post seen at the top of the front T_D page is this: http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/26/the-last-time-hillary-had-...

Which is making fun of a HRC tweet from last october which said "Happy Birthday to this future president".

Doesn't seem very hateful to me.

edit: Basd on your edit, I'm curious what you find hateful about this? HRC passed out on 9/11/16 and was dragged into a waiting van. There is a longstanding meme (in meme-years) about HRC being thrown into the van "like a side of beef", which explains some comments.

Yes, the comments are crass, but is being crass the same thing as "promoting violence and hate"?

The mod stickies are calmer.

Here is the first non-stickied.

https://g.redditmedia.com/lWzOghJ9C76p2rMmU3CDWhHTtojbXJ9vlu...

There was a T_D user who faked a knife attack. He said it was a black person who did it because "he was white". He immediately posted his bloody hand on T_D and said "apparently I look like a NAZI".

It was later found out that he made it up. He cut himself.

He did it intentionally to stir up hate for black people. The entire sub is effectively 4chan. Crass jokes, fake news, subliminal degenerate brainwashing.

It is a breeding ground for people to hate blacks and brown people.

Do you have a link? I can't find anything after some cursory googling. Also, how did T_D respond when the hoax came out?

Also, do you see a problem with one person doing something bad, and then blaming a whole group?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/28/neo-nazi-sta...

I remember seeing the user post the image on T_D immediately. Can't find it now, he likely deleted it. It was highly upvoted.

I don't remember seeing a "we are sorry about the fake story" post.

> do you see a problem with one person doing something bad, and then blaming a whole group?

I am not saying everyone is lying. I am saying the sub exists to find incredibly colorful stories that center around white people being attacked and victimized to stoke hatred against all non-whites. Muslims/blacks/mexicans/etc.

Here's some threads I can find about it:

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6wn655/remember...

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6wp8p6/what_a_l...

Upvoted quotes: "What a fucking idiot.", "What an Imbecile.", "Did he just commit self-harm just to get attention? What a retard.", "That's pathetic. Disavowed.", "On the bright side, someone stabbed him."

If you think that is what T_D is about, you obviously haven't spent much time there.

Crap, tried to reply to your message and replied to another one instead. Check my comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15563490

Do you have an example? Last time this was suggested on HN I held my nose and had a look.

Didn't find any. In fact I found some healthy self-policing in among the muck.

r/the_donald is not just about "disagreeing" it's literally the worst kind of ecochamber of conspiracy theories, veiled (and sometimes not-so-veiled) racism and constant calls to action against "the left". They are such an ecochamber that 90% of the time they speak on memes that nobody else understands (or cares to understand.)

Communities developing their own language and shared understanding is nothing new.

Yes, sometimes racist things are said, but are frequently downvoted or pushed back on. Unless, of course, if you considering being, say, anti-Islam as "racist".

The most common thing I see is that T_D users accept all races and immigrants, but only if they conform to western ideals(say, by not killing gay people or stoning women) and american culture.

Would you say being "anti-Jewish" is racist or bigoted?

I think either word could work

But somehow you don't consider being "anti-Islam" (read: anti-Muslim, because people with that set of prejudices is not going to be threading too thin) racist?

"jewish" has, at least historically, had both an ethnic and religious component; which is why anti-jewish could potentially be described as racist, depending on the time and circumstance.

this is not really the case for islam or christianity; use of "racism" there is a typical "postmodernist race theorist" fallacy used to shut down discussion and avoid addressing arguments.

r/neoliberal is a globalist echo chamber, r/blackfellas is a black racist echo chamber, r/latestagecapitalism is an anticapitalist echo chamber, and r/sandersforpresident is a Bernie Sanders echo chamber.

Reddit's voting system is designed to form echo chambers around a single topic. Why would Donald Trump's subreddit _not_ be an echo chamber?

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