Once again, AWS is the reason Amazon made any money at all. AWS earned $1.1B in profits for the quarter.. a 25% profit margin.
Amazon has had the capability of making profit for years, but prefers to expense everything off in an effort to grow rather than pay increased taxes.
Their skyrocketing market cap hasn't been due to a change in the company's direction so much as investors gradually realizing this strategy and the raw growth potential of where Amazon has positioned itself.
What does that mean?
When a company makes a profit, it pays taxes on that income. The dividends are then either 1. distributed proportionally to the shareholders, or 2. reinvested into the company.
The general idea is that reinvestment will generate more profit in the long term. In this case, the company reinvests the income into operations and growth during the next fiscal period and onwards. This method of reinvestment, however, still requires some taxes to be paid on the income.
As an alternative, a company can fill their income statement each quarter with expenses that will ~match their income. This way, they're essentially reinvesting in their operations and growth just the same, however they don't have to pay the taxes if the expenses are generated in the same quarter. This method makes the company look unprofitable, but in reality is merely an accounting choice (and arguably, a good one).
A random article I found that explains some of the strategy: http://www.businessinsider.com/analysts-wrong-about-amazon-p...
From an a16z partner:
> So, though we can’t be sure, it looks like the capex is not going up because Amazon’s existing business has become more expensive to run, but because Amazon is investing the growing pool of operation cash flow into the future. All of this brings us back to the beginning - Amazon’s business is delivering very rapid revenue growth but not accumulating any surplus cash or profits, because every penny of cash is being ploughed back into expanding the business further. But, this is not because any given business runs permanently at a loss - it is because the profits from what is already there are spent on making new businesses. In the past, that was mostly in operations, but in recent years the investment firehose has again been pointed at capex.
Source: http://ben-evans.com/benedictevans/2014/9/4/why-amazon-has-n...
There is a bit of flexibility in when things are expensed, but there are rules. You cannot buy a building and expense it today. On the other hand, you can spend a lot in marketing or some forms of R&D and you have to expense them now (they cannot be capitalised, even though in fact the return on the investment will come in the future).
Say you land a long term contract to provide a service for 5 years and you need to buy extra hardware to fulfill this service, you can choose to expense the hardware immediately in the first year while you let the earnings come in over the next 5 years. In the first year you would be taking a huge loss (on paper), and in the following four years you would see larger than average profits (on paper).
Alternatively, you could acknowledge the full value of the contract immediately. Or another alternative is to expense the hardware over time.
I'm not an accountant, but this analogy is my basic understanding of the flexibility that companies have.
In the case you provided, the revenue must be booked when it is payable under the contract - if it’s invoices in yearly installments, then it comes onto the books at that point. The capital expense for the equipment must be depreciated over its useful life, not when it is purchased.
In the words of an a16z partner[1]:
> So, though we can’t be sure, it looks like the capex is not going up because Amazon’s existing business has become more expensive to run, but because Amazon is investing the growing pool of operation cash flow into the future. All of this brings us back to the beginning - Amazon’s business is delivering very rapid revenue growth but not accumulating any surplus cash or profits, because every penny of cash is being ploughed back into expanding the business further. But, this is not because any given business runs permanently at a loss - it is because the profits from what is already there are spent on making new businesses. In the past, that was mostly in operations, but in recent years the investment firehose has again been pointed at capex.
[1] http://ben-evans.com/benedictevans/2014/9/4/why-amazon-has-n...
They're positioning themselves as a monopsony for the modern world, even expanding into groceries and now, evidently, pharmacies.
Imagine one company serving as an access point for so many of our goods, while wielding dubious control behind the scenes to extract profit and move vertically through the supply chain. It's easy to imagine a future where we simply buy the cheapest, reliable goods whenever in need, and end up with Amazon lightbulbs that power our Amazon TV stick, etc, etc, etc. It's scary to just see how many cities are bending over backwards to try to be the location of Amazon's HQ2.
Their move with the Echo has gained them another critical access point in the future: smart homes. In the same way we require mobile phones for our apps, we'll require a hub for our IoT devices, preferably voice-activated, and that will be the Echo.
It's hard to even sum up all of their advantages, but as someone who has competed with them in one industry before: it's a damn nightmare.
Which stock are people going to buy? _Everybody_ is going to buy Company A's stock and _nobody_ is going to buy Company B's stock. P/E doesn't matter because 1) no dividends and 2) it's not a proxy for relative risk (we established risk is identical between the two).
Amazon is special because it's potential for revenue growth is believed to be nearly unlimited. As long as they're not losing money, and as long as they have enough profits to continue growing revenue, people will keep investing. Once the specter of stagnant revenue growth appears, Amazon's stock will probably come crashing down.
Basically, investors chase revenue growth, not profits. Berkshire Hathaway works the same way. Buffet might be a value investor who buys companies that can grow profits, but the price of BRK.A tracks the revenue growth of the holding company, not its profits.
Conversely, Wal-Mart's revenue growth has completely stalled. In fact, the stock price plummeted the year that revenue decreased slightly.
This is how things look as far as I can tell. I'm not a financial professional, and even if I'm right I'm sure there's a far better way (more technical, more comprehensive) to explain this dynamic.
The huge absolute revenues of Wal-Mart do suggest that revenue growth opportunities are structurally limited by the size of the domestic economy. But then again, unless and until every brick & mortar store in the U.S. says "Wal-Mart", they could still grow. That sounds unreasonable, but it's basically how people see Amazon: capable of growing revenues in large part by capturing existing markets, and being able to do that for the foreseeable future.
You said you could never understand why Amazon attracts so much investment despite their P/E and despite the poor margins of the retail industry. I realize you probably said that rhetorically, but in any event my point was simply that profit margins don't matter; what attracts investment is revenue growth. I'm sure there are many reasons--some rational (the corollary of revenue growth is growing marginal profit _potential_), some not--but it is what it is. And it's pretty much how investment has always worked.
Indicators like P/E only matter because of what they signal about future revenue growth. A poor P/E often suggests poor capacity for growing revenue. It's a heuristic, and if more direct evidence gives you reason to believe otherwise then you discount the predictive value of the P/E metric accordingly.
I suppose another way of looking at it is that Wal-Mart is at the phase where they're capturing profits, not growth. Their profit taking years were priced into their stock during the growth period; as they grew revenue their potential for future profits grew and this was immediately reflected in their stock price. If you look at the financial graphs, their stock price has remained steady with their revenue. When overall revenue declined the stock price dropped sharply, because revenue decline implies a decline in future profits and markets will quickly price future prospects into today's stock price. So in the language of "fundamentals" investing, profits are ultimately what matter; but _future_ profits, not today's profits. Future profits is just another way of saying profit potential; and the best indicator of profit potential is today's revenue growth.
It earns this healthy margin because customers pay Amazon before Amazon pays suppliers. Normal companies have to fund their businesses by raising debt or equity, whereas Amazon gets free loans from merchants. Exceptional way to fund growth.
Growing this fast at scale is insane, Amazon scares me.
Every product Amazon presents, is in a very obvious way geared towards making people consume more every day as if that were the biggest joy people have in their life. Ordering from Amazon via image recognition was one of the only unique features, the Fire Phone had. Why would I as a person deciding between smartphones want that? Alexa was presented in the same way, and then there obviously is the Dash button.
25% is a fat margin: why would you say this is a low-margin space?