The 8.5% in this file is what you'd compare to Microsoft and IBM's recent ~5% results.
https://github.com/kaldi-asr/kaldi/blob/master/egs/fisher_sw...
Kaldi hasn't been in first place on that dataset recently, but it was a few years ago.
On other more researchy datasets (eg. for distant speakers or languages other than English), the best system is often based on Kaldi.