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Comment by muhfuhkuh | Hacker News Reader

Reading the conclusion, they say discoverability of the sidebar is a factor. Well, I've seen some iphone/ipad apps that by default, show all the toolbars and buttons for a few seconds before hiding them (like showing and hiding the dock in OS X); and some even give a little automated "nudge" imitating an aborted swipe motion to show that there are other screens you can swipe to).

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Or just put the toolbar at the bottom nearer where your hand and the input pops up anyway.

If you do that with an always visible toolbar, you lose precious screen real estate: the top bar can just disappear away as you scroll down (with the always available status bar serving as a direct link to it), a bottom toolbar can not do that (note: I don't know if the toolbar hides on the iPad, it does on the iPhones).

> (note: I don't know if the toolbar hides on the iPad, it does on the iPhones).

It doesn't.

Ahhhh, downvoted you on accident, mate. Good observation.

Could also make this a settings based feature...

That’s seems to me to be the lazy way out. (Also something Apple would probably never ever do. I can’t think of any setting in any Apple application that radically changes the UI. There are modes, like Aperture’s fullscreen mode but no settings. Their iOS apps have even less settings, if you strip away all the configuration there are probably a few dozen real settings in their Settings app.)

I love how the common user suggestion to "just make it a setting" is immediately downvoted. Hacker News FTW.

I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not. I hope it it is. I thought downvoting was reserved for the most egregious of comments. For me, that one by mikeryan doesn't count.

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