If this happens civil disobedience will grow.
There won't be a civil war (we are peaceful people and have no guns), but we won't obey what comes from Madrid.
[0] http://www.elperiodico.com/es/politica/20171020/encuesta-cat...
Nonetheless I find that most sources lack my trust. There's campaigning from both sides, but the unionists have a huge influence on all the national media.
There's also the big probability that some new elections will have the effect to provide a new Catalan parliament with the same number (at least) of pro-independence elected members.
Then that would "solve" nothing.
So it'll be a massacre?
I don't believe that everyone owning firearms is even remotely close to the answer, but nations get super fucking stupid and desperate when folks try to break away from them, even if the break away process is democratic and peaceful.
> We are peaceful people and have no guns.
You're either entirely wrong, or Catalonia is an extreme statistical outlier when it comes to gun ownership in Spain.
1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_guns_per_c...
It's increasingly clear that the only two possible outcomes are either abandoning the idea altogether (possibly with an overall reduction in autonomy or proscription of the pro-independence parties); or violence.
You can see even in this thread that nobody in the rest of Spain is even going to consider the possibility of peaceful secession. It's going to end up like 70s Belfast if people go down this route.
Did you know that it's impossible to have your children study in Spanish at public schools... in Spain? There were sentences from the Supreme Court and Tribunal Constitucional condemning this situation. Regional government ignored them and central governments did nothing for decades.
Other propaganda sources are not going to be controled either. There are a couple of associations, the ones whose leaders are now jailed, that play a central role and, unless illegalized (that I seriously doubt will happen) will still be receiving lots of money from the very same State that they're fighting. Why? Because cutting the financing would mean reforming laws that allow national parties to give money to their own fundations in other parts of Spain.
Public funded tv and radio would get new heads, but replacing the fanatics that produce the contents would need dismantling them, that most likely won't happen either.
Do you know why this situation seems so confusing? Because spanish governments have done nothing for a very long time. This has allowed nationalists to create the ilusion that they're really almost independent and they only need a little push to get there. Then our current prime minister is known for its "do nothing until there's no other option" style, that made the thugs think it's the moment to make their move.
I was in Barcelona 4 days ago. At least 25% of the people there is clearly not independentist.
So stop talking the "sentiment in the street" like there is only one "Poble" in Catalunia that wants independence. If there is a fight it is not going to be against Madrid, but Catalans over Catalans.
Most are pro-independence, and they are always full of people. Unionists are few and with not that many people (except the one on the 8th of October).
The "the fight will be catalan VS catalan" is an unionist mantra. People want to vote, not fight.
Unionists would love an armed or belligerent pro-independence group, so they could repress us while giving the illusion of being right. That's why our movement will be pacifist.
Anti-secession supporters has been afraid of Catalan government. Not anymore.
>Unionists would love an armed or belligerent pro-independence group
No, that's BS. By the way, such group has existed before (Terra Lliure) and nothing changed.
Myanmar has gun controls too. That’s really working out for its populace /s
The ignorance and naïveté in this statement is astounding.
The Constitution, you mean?
Good luck when, in your newly forged Republic, some citizens don't want to obey the Rule of Law, because
we won't obey what comes from Barcelona