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VimFX is dead.

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A shame really. VimFX is so critical for my workflow that I am not going to upgrade to FFv57 just because of this.

FF Extended Support Release will provide bugfixes for v52 until June 2018.

I've switched to it with Pentadactyl while hoping there will be a useable API for proper Vim plugins by then.

What's your typical workflow in your browser ?

I use VimFX on FF, i3-wm as my window manager and vim for writing code.

It's mouse free nirvana.

Is there a good alternative for VimFx?

vimium

There's Vimium-FF and Saka Key at the moment:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/vimium-ff/ https://key.saka.io/

Also, Tridactyl is at the planning stage and working with Mozilla on a better keyboard WebExtension API:

https://github.com/cmcaine/tridactyl https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1215061

edit: Oh, looks like Tridactyl has quite some code already. I'm not sure if it's runnable yet, though.

Saka Key seems to be using different keybindings than VimFx, Vimium, Vimperator, etc. For example, Saka Key uses `n` to open a new tab[1] whereas others use `t` to open a new tab. I am more used to the latter. So I decided to ignore this and try Vimium instead.

Vimium is good but one thing about Vimium annoys and I don't know a good workaround for it. If I create a new tab, the focus goes to address bar and then there is no convenient way to escape back to normal mode. I know this is a restriction due to the new webextensions. Anyone got any ideas to overcome this limitation?

[1]: https://key.saka.io/tutorial/tabs

Just wanted to mention, one of the unique features of Saka Key is that it lets you define keybinding profiles that are easy to switch between, and there are multiple profiles built in, including one that mimics Vimium.

The address bar autofocusing is annoying. Best advice I have is to replace your new tab page with a URL or a custom new tab extension.

Also, I devised the default keybindings with three goals in mind.

1. Common keys should be easy to reach.

2. Users unintentionally trigger dangerous commands (like close the current tab). To prevent this, I bind dangerous commands to 2 key sequences.

3. Users not being able to remember keybindings. To help users remember, I try to associate commands with an intuitive key, e.g. Zooming is mapped to z.

Saka key author

Thanks for mentioning us, Florian.

We're aiming to get Tridactyl to feature-equality with Vimium and Saka-Key by the end of this weekend. (We are runnable now, but it's not a fantastic UX)

We hope to match or exceed the current WebExtension state of the art (cVim) by the FF57 release date (Mid November).

Our longer-term roadmap depends on how responsive Mozilla are to our feature requests. They've suggested that our two most important API extensions could be merged in FF58 (Jan 2018? I forget), but we'll have to see.

If you don't want to run other WebExtensions or Firefox, Qutebrowser offers a really good solution :)

Great news! I added it to https://github.com/qutebrowser/qutebrowser#active now.

Now I wonder, where does the Penta -> Tri come from? Is it intended to be usable with three fingers? (SCNR)

Because we'll only be 3/5ths as good :)

Or maybe because we're only trying.

https://riot.im/app/#/room/#tridactyl:matrix.org/$1507907809...

While not a full replacement, QuantumVim is better than nothing:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/quantumvim/

QuantumVim hasn't seen any activity in the past year: https://github.com/shinglyu/QuantumVim

But there's Saka Key, Vimium-FF and Tridactyl.

Yes, Qutebrowser. :P

Whoops, I meant to say Vimium-FF. Vimperator, VimFX, etc are dead.

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