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As a proud dad of 3 incredible girls, I am very glad this product exists. I understand the argument that it would be great to not have gendered products at all meaning kids could choose what they want without any outside influence.

Unfortunately, we don't live in that world yet (and it could be a while off) In the meantime, I can now buy a product that:

1. Encourages my girls to get into STEM. 2. Is not a hard sell.

My girls are socialized to like girly stuff. I am only partly responsible for this - the outside pressures and influences on my children are huge and very hard to resist.

So you could argue that this product is a compromise, but it's one I'll gladly make.

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There's nothing worng with liking girly stuff and being into STEM.

I'm a pretty "masculine" (for a lack of better expression) guy who likes a fair amount of girly stuff. My best friend is a girly girl who's in STEM and she's brilliant at her job.

If your girls want to be girly, there's nothing wrong with it! I don't understand the recent "trend" of people being against girly girls or or boyish boys. People will choose to be what best suits them. And if your girls decide they don't want to be girly at one point in their life, also great.

Good point - I suppose I really meant they are channelled in certain "girly" directions when you could argue that there are other valid (and also "girly") directions also. And yes, I will support whatever way they choose to express themselves. Gender issues are tough!

Even without socialization, I'd bet some girls will still like girly stuff.

males can like girly stuff too

The problem isn’t that girls like “girly” stuff. The problem is that stuff is defined as “girly”.

That's because boys usually don't like it...? Or do you mean that "girly" is seen as something negative?

I have 2 daughters and one is just all about her phone (She is older and living on her own) my 11 year old would love this but it was because of code.org and their minecraft section.

I tried Arduino and Scratch but that it was scratch with minecraft made all the difference. Each kid has their own selves and likes. Sometimes they are similar and others they are opposites and we as parents flounder and stay up late wondering if we are doing the right things for our kids all the time. I like this product but I couldn't shell out $100 on Friendship bracelets.

I am TOTES buying one of these for myself (cis male).

I wouldn't deprive anyone of this.

But do you really like it? Or would you just buy it out of virtue signaling bullshit reasons?

What's gendered about Jewelbots?

Why do men and women need to be the same? Isn't it ok to be different?

It's absolutely okay to be different. In fact, everybody is different, and that's one of the big problems with trying to slot people into one of two buckets.

We aren't that different.

If we weren’t “that” different, gender reassignment would not be a thing.

If gender reassignment was performed on 40% of the population I would agree with you.

That makes no sense.

There is a segment of the population that is physically one gender but feels they are actually the other. If we weren't that different, nobody would go through the massive physical alteration.

The size of the population that has gender dysphoria is irrelevant.

Gender reassignment is an statistical anomaly, less than 0.1% of the population.

Please don't take HN threads on generic ideological tangents. The site rules specifically ask us all to avoid them: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

The reason for this is that they're (a) always the same and (b) always degnerate. (a) makes threads unsubstantive and (b) makes them uncivil. Civil, substantive conversation is the whole idea of HN threads—however rarely we may actually achieve it—so you could hardly do anything that more violates the site's values, even if you didn't mean to. Not meaning to makes it more insidious in a way.

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