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Does the new round going to help with reliability problems? I use GitHub ~90% of time and I can't recall any downtime, while for GitLab it's very often to see it being unavailable.

I find the service great but it's really frustrating to see it being down so often.

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I haven't experienced any downtime with their public service - which I think is great for hosting private repos (as others have mentioned). I actually prefer it to bitbucket.

In other professional experiences, hosting our own instances of Gitlab was a great solution. Setup/updates were easy and we had the piece of mind knowing that we were in control of the maintaining uptime. I was very impressed by how simple it was to their implement CI service as well.

Just this past friday their fully automated CI devops whatever deployed an old major version to some parts of their infrastructure, the entire website was 500 for an hour and git pushes were barking up Ruby stacktraces.

GitLab.com is not deployed using any automated CI software, instead it's deployed using https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/takeoff. The problem here was an incorrect version set in Chef, resulting in it deploying an old version to the cluster.

All the more reason to host your own instance! However, I understand if others prefer not to go this route and thus use an alternative version control solution.

I stopped using Github for private repos for three years. I get them for free from Bitbucket and Gitlab. So, I think the actual contender to Gitlab is Bitbucket and not Github.

However, Bitbucket feels a bit more organized and mature (the UI). What I also like: Bitbucket has the real Trello integrated which is great. I still like Gitlab, it's always good to have competition.

what does this comment have to do with parent comment about site reliability/uptime ?

How is Github not the main contender just because of private repo pricing? GitHub is the Goliath here.

Also none of this has anything to do with up or down time.

> GitHub is the Goliath here

For open source projects, but it appears to me that the enterprise projects are more BitBucket. This is just my experience, but I can't see how GitHub even competes with Enterprise Support that comes from BitBucket.

Hm perhaps. Without any knowledge or info whatsoever, I'd think that Bitbucket and Github are close for enterprise too just because of how big Github is. And then Bitbucket obviously has the experience and integrations that Atlassian provides to be competitive. Still feels like the edge would go to Github Enterprise in terms of popularity and revenue if I had to pick one.

I'm also partially basing this on Atlassian's public company market cap and revenue. I believe Atlassian does close to $65M a month in revenue (they did $58M/month in the quarter ending in June)[0]. GitHub I believe does around $15M/month in revenue nowadays[1][2]. They both lose some money. I actually believe around the same amount, $4-7M a month. Jira, Confluence, and potentially something else have to take the bulk of Atlassian's earnings.

Gitlab keeps raising money at pretty high valuations so I'm probably underestimating the industry as a whole anyway and missing some info.

0: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/atlassian-announces-fourth-qu... 1: https://medium.com/@moritzplassnig/github-is-doing-much-bett... 2:

Github Enterprise has a lot of uptake in larger companies: https://enterprise.github.com/

> What I also like: Bitbucket has the real Trello integrated which is great.

We have an issue board built-in - https://about.gitlab.com/features/issueboard/

If you have any suggestions, we'd love to hear how we can improve it (or any other part of GitLab; e.g. the UI) - https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues

Is there anyway to make issue boards the default on a per project basis so accessing them isn't a two step process?

+1 this would be really nice. Currently we can choose between "latest activity" or "browse files". Adding an option for "issue board" (and "list of issues") would be great.

My non-tech colleagues get pretty lost when they go to the project's home page and see either files or a list of commits.

So as landing page? That is an interesting idea. I've created an issue. Would love to get your thoughts there: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/38954

Thank you! I will follow/comment on the issue.

You should be able to access them directly today by hovering over the navigation item on the left for issues and selecting board there.

Or do you mean as a landing page for the project (I see a comment below here that clearly indicates that, will follow up on this, there)?

That would be two actions hover + click. I'd like to be able to just click "Issues" and have the option to make it the issue list or the issue board.

You don't remember any downtime with GitHub? Lol.

.. recently github has been awfully slow

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