Google’s Airpods competitor do real-time language translation
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Umm, no. The killer feature of AirPods is the form factor and not having an annoying cable connecting the buds. As other posters have noted, Amazon is full of cabled headphones. Language translation is certainly cool, but for most people that's not an everyday need.
Ehh, the ability to lose those things really easily is not what I'd call a killer feature. The cabled bluetooth headphones are easy to keep draped over your neck when not in use. Someone actually sells a $10 string that connects the Earpods so they too can have this convenient feature [0].
[0] http://promo.spigen.com/product/iphone-7-iphone-7-plus-airpo...
Oh Reghinold! I disagree!
If they really went nuts I’d say it be cool if the thing also charged the headphones. But I mean, what a crazy world that would be.
When not in use, your AirPods can double as earrings.
As such, the AirPods form factor is a killer feature if they fit your ear and stay through activity. If they do not stay, there is no point in trying to "extend" them.
I suspect aesthetics is the only reason Apple doesn't use the soft silicon type. Maybe they found that the hard plugs fit 90% of people and that's good enough.
My AirPods however I've had since January/February and I still have both. I have never gotten close to losing them the 4-5 times I did with the Jaybirds, because instead of dangling around my shirt/jacket, they go back in the case and into my pocket the second they come out of my ear. I've had some cases where I misplace them at home of course, but they're not just jumping out of my ears, and if they did I'd surely notice my music/podcast stop playing.
I also have found earbuds that are actually wireless(not wired bluetooth earbuds) has been a huge improvement. For example if I pull one out, I don't have a wire hanging and pulling on the other bud uncomfortably. If my buds are getting low, I can recharge one at a time without having to stop my podcast/music. They're also massively more comfortable, the Jaybird wire was kind of tacky and would catch and move jumpily on my neck, putting on a hoodie/jacket would pull on the cable or knock them out of my ears, and putting it in front of my neck was even more annoying. (Constantly having something moving and bumping against my chin was super annoying). Bluetooth wired earbuds are fine, but after having used what was widely regarded at the time as the best pair available, using wireless earbuds makes them feel like a cheap stopgap.
This guy is real excited to have all of his conversations stored in the cloud
Many people may not have Fi, which I get, but I get the feeling Google's ideal use case is these headphones paired with a Pixel 2 running on Fi.
Also, being able to travel around in europe without any extra roaming charges, means that I can still use this, wherever I go in europe.
I'm very excited to try these as soon as I can get my hands on them.
alexa, order more coffee filters.
Balancing that out is my desire to not get run over, and to save $160.
So what I'm saying is, I'm pretty sure I'll end up with AirPods soon.
But seriously, I've been so happy with my recent bluetooth purchases. I guess I could try the jaybirds in one ear, but they are noise isolating, which is less than ideal, and i think it would bother me more to have one ear blocked and the other not.
I definitely would NOT want to deal with wires to a phone somewhere in my pocket while cycling, seems potentially hazardous. Just a wire connecting them could be doable.
The problem is that all the reasons why I feel this way would not have meant much to me while I was still using wired headphones. It feels a bit like retina displays, or my first experience with a sleep mode that actually works (my first, white MacBook): the advantages don't seem all that obvious or amazing right until you're forced to go back to the 'old way'.
I would suggest you first make sure they fit your ears though. I was always confused about people complaining about the EarPods/AirPods falling out of their ears because that never happens to me or most people that I know. Then I actually met one of those mythical people and it became immediately obvious to me how unusable these things are for them (without foam or perhaps some superglue).
The "translate conversations in real-time" part seems to have nothing to do with the Google Pixel Buds - it's already live in the Google Translate app.
In fact, you can try it right now. Open the Google Translate app on android, put on a pair of headphones with a mic, and tap the audio translation. As you hear spoken word in another language, it'll translate in realtime back to your non-google headphones.
*note - The trick is you need to press the button so it enables translation across both languages, as that seems to be the only way to keep translation on even after the first phrase.
Yes, the Google Translate app has a conversation mode which doesn't require a headset at all. I wouldn't recommend trying to use it with an unsupported headset, though. You won't be able to do push-to-talk, and the audio routing won't work as intended. (The intended UX is that one side of the conversation is routed to the phone, the other to Pixel Buds.)
I wrote about why we decided not to support third party headsets here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15404918
a) UX for "hold while talking"
b) Known quality of the headset
From the outside, it looks a bit shady, and a bit un-Googlelike just to compete with Apple.
I imagine a more Google-like approach would've been to release Translate as a local model (eg like https://developers.google.com/vision/). It's easy to imagine the community would quickly figure out a way to solve a) and make the experience work for most headsets.
Perhaps you'll be getting those "live" as in:
Your friend says: Let's go get a drink (in some other language)
You hear: let's go get a <drink by advertiser>
...
Shame about the cable though. The one (surprising) benefit of no cable is that the cable doesn't tug on the earphones, making them less likely to come out.
I think there’s an elegance to basically keeping the existing design and just chopping the cables off, even if it is showy. Certainly beats the alternative “black amorphous blob” design of some of the others.
I have bluetooth headphones and I just get tired of the battery going out. Besides being cool and not looking dated, is there any conceivable reason why removing the headphone jack saves money, makes them last longer on battery, makes it thinner or anything else?
> makes it thinner or anything else?
I think it's volume inside the device more than thinness, but I agree I don't think it's a fundamental design constraint. I'm sure they could find the room.
I think it's just that (now/soon) Bluetooth headphones are finally good enough. I have the Airpods, and I have almost no issue with batteries (they recharge while they're in the case, it's only a problem if I listen continuously for a whole evening, but even then they fast recharge in minutes), and they have great range. I'd tried Bluetooth headphones in the past and it was the pairing process that really turned me off, that's a non-issue now too. I would go as far as to say that the Airpods are the best/most game-changing product Apple has put out in maybe a decade. They just need to get a little cheaper, and included as standard (at least for the new top-of-line devices).
For people in the audio industry it sucks, but there are adapters. I don't resent them taking it out any more than I do an ethernet port in my MacBook (ethernet is much better than WiFi, but WiFi is 'good enough' now, and I have an adapter at my desk for when I need it).
Could never run with those, but I've run/biked with AirPods with no problems (I thought I might lose one but it was really a non issue if they fit properly in the first place).
Exactly. If they don't fit you'll have issues, or will need silicone covers or something, but if they do fit it's great.
I've tried lots of earphones in the gym, including some cheap Bluetooth ones with a cable that goes behind the neck, and have always had problems until the Airpods. I've never had them fall out, ever. Embarrassingly, I do sometimes forget I have them in though...
I like having the cord as I can pull the buds from my ears and let them hang around my neck when I stop to talk to someone.
I originally got them because I kept yanking the cord of my wired ear buds when walking and found wired headphones really inconvenient in the gym.
I understand competition is a normal part of doing business, but blatant copying really rubs the wrong way.
Also, Android uses SBC for Bluetooth streaming by default; until they fix that (by using AAC), BT audio will sound like shit
It is likely incredible hard to do well by themselves from now, but there's a chance they could pay Google for an API.