The Everything Bubble [infographic]
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Demand isn't growing because 60% of the population is barely scraping by.
How do you increase demand? Roll back the tax cuts to the wealthy who have nowhere to put that money except into speculation and bubbles. Redistribute it back to the working class in the form of tax cuts, credits, higher minimum wage, and social programs. They will immediately put it to work by spending on things they need to get by. Demand increases.
That money trickles back up to the wealthy who receive the profits from that spending, and invest it back into the industries where demand is actually growing.
Voila, more growth, fewer bubbbles.
My point was that UBI applies to everyone, an therefore is not specific to any group.
The problem with giving people more money to stimulate demand for those things is that it only solves half of the problem. Healthcare is limited by the supply of doctors so no matter how much government subsidizes it, the amount of people who can be seen by the constant number of doctors will be the same. In practice, this means the price will increase every time you try to give people more money for healthcare.
Housing is similar in that even if you give people money for new houses, everyone wants their house to be in a nice location and there are only so many houses that can fit in a constant amount of desirable real estate.
Without reforms to medical school and medical residency programs, healthcare might never be affordable. Without reforms to zoning laws, housing might never be affordable.
Without at least allowing for an increase to the supply of nice things, increasing the demand of nice things won't be very helpful.
US could save money in healthcare while improving it by reorganizing the healthcare. Even wealthy people get worse treatment than they could because the way incentives work. https://www.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/6addvo/the_wealth...
If pure cold economic calculation would be applied to public policy, it would become clear that healthcare is not just personal issue, good healthcare provides positive externalizes for all. Your neighbors good teeth are not completely unlike investing in a bridge or other public infrastructure.
If someone stays healthy and can work full time 5 years more because he had free healthcare, he pays 5 years more taxes, generates more profits fro employer, and consumes less medical services during his lifetime.
Those studies are hard to make because it's hard to measure medical outcomes. For example, for the Oregon experiment they couldn't look into differences in death rates because death rates were too low even among uninsured people. They had to look at cholesterol, blood sugar and other proxies for health outcomes, instead of the outcomes themselves.
This suggests that at some point further spending in health has diminishing returns and we don't actually know if we reached that point yet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Medicaid_health_experim...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAND_Health_Insurance_Experime...
It's similar to what happens when there aren't enough houses in an affordable nice place so rich people use their fortunes to outbid everyone else and the nice affordable place becomes expensive and gentrified. With the money and labor spent on huge mansions (or hyper-luxurious tiny houses, because land is inelastic), they could have built hundreds of regular houses or apartments.
That's important, true. But that's not the only thing that would increase the amount of healthcare available to people. Dean Baker, for example, makes the important point that we could greatly increase the supply of doctors simply by allowing qualified foreign doctors to be certified in the U.S.[1] Lower class workers in industries like manufacturing have had to compete with foreign workers because of free trade, but upper class workers benefit from extreme protectionism that shuts out foreign competition. Protectionism is also why drug prices are so high; if people were allowed to import drugs from places like Canada, the cost would be substantially cheaper.
[1] http://cepr.net/blogs/beat-the-press/more-of-free-trade-in-d...
Rapid, careless globalization was an interesting experiment, but it's left a lot of people with no hope for the future. Do we really want to repeat it?
Besides, doctors are service workers. It's not like their jobs will be outsourced or people will start traveling to India to visit a cheaper doctor.
In any field x, you have people who specialize in x and people who specialize in extracting money. It's no surprise where the money ends up. (This is independent of particular mechanisms for extracting money that vary across economic and political systems.)
That's also why the US spends so much on drugs. Doctors are overworked, so they are forced to depend on prescribing more drugs, the most time-efficient tools for them.
That's true but that's not true. While the # of doctors is constant right now, it is always changing as new doctors are trained and licensed (and also older doctors retiring). Just like computer science, as the demand increases and supply does not grow to catch up, wages will increase, but that doesn't mean there isn't at least some stimulus in the number of new people who decide to get into the profession.
While there won't be a glut of new doctors in 48 hours, obviously, but rather over years, it will (hopefully) eventually catch up.
Just consider the US population growing at around 0.7% yearly (https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/22/us/usa-population-growth....). And if there are about 390 patients, on average, per practicing doctor in the US (http://bigthink.com/strange-maps/185-the-patients-per-doctor...), then given that population of the US increases around 2.2 million per year, that means we should be getting around ~5600 new doctors into the field every year. If you believe the stats, we will likely be facing quite a shortage over the next 7-10 years: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2015/0...
More should be done to speed up the supply of new doctors.
when you put funny money in the market, tech booms, paper assets boom and investment in hard industry becomes less appealing. the investment in tech has failed to rise all boats. its only raising boats for some very select geographies, and perhaps that could have been changed if tech developed differently (less monopolies), but it didnt.
Re tax cuts, instead of tax cuts on the middle class, make wage increases tax deductible for corporations. As someone in the middle class, I don’t care what my rate is, I care what the take home is. Reward corporations for passing more money through to employees by lowering the taxes on their earnings.
Wage stagnation worries me a lot, specifically because of what it does to aggregate demand.
http://www.thomaspalley.com/docs/articles/macro_policy/quant...
Well, look we are nearly a decade later from that moment so that money has gone through the system, aggregated usually with the 1% and then dispersed.
Additionally the world continues to become more global. If you look at some of the main residential markets in America like NYC and Miami, you will see that a significant percentage of purchases aren't from US citizens, but instead, international buyers that are moving their money into a more secure asset offshore and away from their government.
In Miami there is a lot of money from Russia and South America. In NYC it is a lot of money from China.
Then consider that after the housing bubble popped it would only be natural that money would look for another asset class to invest in so it shifted to the stock market.
Certainly there is speculation there, that's the nature of the stock market but the largest companies that have the majority of the growth are simply larger due to higher revenues. What made them successful five years ago are macro trends that are still playing out.
As massive as Amazon is it's only a small percentage of overall sales, which still occur at retailers, however the macro trend of more sales happening online hasn't stopped so you are seeing that continuation.
Apple could be argued is under valued, not over valued.
Google is still continuing to grow.
Sure, Tesla could be considered a bubble, but eventually it grows into the valuation or the irrational exuberance stops and the stock will decrease to it's real valuation. Similar to what happened to LinkedIn. But again, that is too small to really matter on the global scale.
The question of reducing taxes to spur more demand, well that won't really work. Think of it this way, if you reduce taxes even 10% that isn't going to lead to more cars being bought. Sure things that you need like groceries and maybe making your rent, but you aren't going to be making massive purchases.
That tax cuts would benefit the rich the most, because 10% of a $10MM salary means an extra $1MM of cash after you already have enough for savings, so that really does become discretionary spending money. But those people would again purchase the most expensive assets and drive up real estate prices.
Also very unlikely that you could push through a tax cut for a single class or even two classes without a tax cut for the rich, otherwise it would be called socialism, which is misunderstood, but still hated and feared in America.
These are just normal shifts of money moving depending on the barriers that it encounters. We all are exposed to inflation so money needs to be shifted as inflation is it's own version of having limited timeline. Leave the cash under a mattress and 50 years later be surprised by how much spending power you lost.
If you look at the American economy manufacturing is only 10% of salaried positions and 80% is the service sector. So you are seeing how this plays out over time.
The reality is that the world was never equal, and unless you want to move to communism where everyone has the same stuff, it will never be equal. As such there will be some winners and some losers.
Now if you really want to reset this imbalance, it isn't about tax cuts for the poor, but instead massive taxes on the rich. That would then move those funds back to the government, they could focus on more infrastructure which is sorely needed, and it would be coming from the very class that can afford to lose that money.
This would decrease some of the real estate prices, but that could lead to problems in building as well, which means that sector will lose jobs.
The reality is that everything is interconnected, you can't change one thing without affecting everything else.
But certainly if you want to tax those that have the most you could move forward.
Plus, check out what the highest tax rate was on the largest income earners 80 years ago and be surprised by how high it was.
[0]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troubled_Asset_Relief_Progra...
This is pretty directly contradicted by the post. The real estate markets that have higher taxes on the wealthy are showing more bubbly behavior.
Higher taxes on high earners may be a good idea but they’re not a solution to bubbles.
It seems simple on paper. But the wealthy didn't get wealthy by giving away money.
Asking the wealthy to hand back some of their "welfare" is going to be incredible difficult and unsuccessful.
Think about it. It's easier to ask 1 million people to give up $1 each than it is to ask one person to give up $1 million dollars.
Corporate debt is high because DEBT IS STILL CHEAP (fed is changing that). Of course they're going to borrow fuckloads of money, it's practically free by some measures!
The indexing "bubble" is actually a correction for a lack of value from active funds. I don't expect the correction to be corrected.
The cryptocurrency bubble is tiny. 65 billion? That's a rounding error.
5 Stocks accounting for most of growth is troublesome when corrected, but still not catastrophic. If we lose ALL of that growth then we go back to 2016 levels? Ok.
Yes -- this is the whole point of owning a broad index.
You get exposure to the highest-performing stocks -- what those actual companies are changes over time.
And there's usually another company to step up and fill the gap when one of the leaders falls.
Care to elaborate more on the housing.
The government then makes up that you must be at least getting 4% (up to 9% if you have up to 1M) interest, and it wants 30% of that interest of anything over that 21K EUR limit.
Meanwhile the current interest at banks is anywhere from 0.05% to 1% here (most major banks are around 0.2%).
As a general principle taxing personal investment income should be taxes at least the same amount as labor income. Taxing labor has more negative externalities than taxing investment income.
By practically pay, he just means he has a very low interest rate, and possibly some regular account fee's.
Just few examples of putting things into context:
* Household Debt Service Payments as a Percent of Disposable Personal Income https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/TDSP
* Household Financial Obligations as a percent of Disposable Personal Income (FODSP) https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FODSP
* Household Debt to GDP for United States© (HDTGPDUSQ163N) https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/HDTGPDUSQ163N
The real issue is that the big cities like Toronto are the economic centers of the region. When they pop, everything else will be in trouble too.
If you want to figure out what the correct price level is, find statistics that compares price of housing to median income in your area over time. That's the single most important metric determining the correct property valuations.
Prices can go up as long as incomes go up. Major cities have higher productivity and prices can go up until they start to eat too much from the income. In declining areas prices can go down and houses are still overvalued.
What is the price/income ratio now compared to long term average? How much of the 60% can be explained with prices rebounding to long term normal.
ps. I'm almost sure that house prices in Toronto are exceptionally high compared to income. I'm not arguing against that. I'm arguing against people using wrong numbers to measure things. Find relevant numbers and use them.
What indicators are predicting a "pop" or that this is a "bubble?" What exactly are they predicting will happen?
Just seems like a lot of numbers and infographic fear mongering otherwise.
Now the real analytic question to ponder is: where exactly does this destructive element of capitalism originates from (left as an exercise for the reader).
Three days ago, I wondered (time and again) about all the fuzz about this site called facebook - within ten years it took something, that was not really exploited (social relations) and made it a first class business. Startup hubs are still dreaming of the next social startup - meaning exploiting special kind of relations (neighbours, potential partners, coworkers, what have you).
And we won't stop here. Think your dreams belong to you? Maybe today, but I can see large enterprises exploiting your very being for profit, soon. You find that disturbing? But why?
All I ask for is to be more conscious about these, sometimes subtle, sometimes less so - things.
If it helps you, here's a simple framework of mine to develop some kind of directional feeling for technology: If it helps to lessen the power of a single entity it's perfect, if it enables you to do new things it's good, otherwise, it might only be a distraction.
Linux and free software is perfect, it is free and a huge enabler for all kinds of things - even for businesses. Bittorrent is good, because it is a huge enabler and took power off content distributors. Raspberry Pi is perfect, because it puts computing into a lot of hands. AWS is only good, because it is an enabler, but it actually feeds a single entity - so that's bad. Cryptocurrencies in theory are perfect, since they take power off single large entities - but they are not robust yet. Solar power is perfect, because it can a human make independent of a single large entity.
So, it is somewhat simple: There are things that liberate you - you as a person and let's you voluntarily choose to cooperate and there are things that lock you in - facebooks walled garden, adtech in general, where information asymmetry only grows - and many other things, that only make sense in the capitalist framework (in however shiny colors you want to paint its advantages).
Maybe that's a start?
I'm not sure how I feel about this, but it's at least a perspective.
You can make solid cases that we don't need to have quite the crashes we actually do. But I don't believe in the existence of a real economy that doesn't have some substantial cycles in it that people will point to as evidence that something is wrong.
(Of course, if enough of those people get together and get put in charge of an economy, they often are successful at removing the cycles, by virtue of removing all instances of the economy going up at all....)
Big business have got drunk on low interest rates and corp. debt so cheap, making it very good for big business but negative for the majority of the worlds population.
So they like to see interest rates to remain very low, and have leverage with governments saying their business it at serious risk if interest rates were to return to 'more sensible levels'. Which is kinda true!
Also:
People with sufficient savings or disposable income have choose one of the few obvious/easy investment options and buy into property, either upgrading or buying more properties.
The wealthy who have access to good financial tools have also invested into property, both commercial and residential. Hence so many empty properties in London, that people complain about.
Driving up the price, so further squeezing the population who are not able to follow.
Hence the rise of Trump and others, promising to make America great again, cuz so many voters are being squeezed.
Low interest rates is like a drug addiction, but the addicts (big business) are not the ones suffering.
Hence the rise of popularism and the likes of Trump into powerful positions, but he is sitting on the side for businesses and not the person. He incorrectly believes recovery can only be found with big business, but I believe this just perpetuates the addiction.
Interest rates need to rise (ouch!) and companies must be forced to pay the taxes they owe. Also giving individuals with big investments (risks) into property to exit gracefully without the property market crashing, which hurts everyone.
While there surely must be some crappy indexes out there, one could argue that more indexing by (individual) investors is a sign of a more people understanding the difficulty of stock picking and harsh effects of management expenses on investment returns.
I’m very happy indexing in my retirement portfolios, but am curious as to what the arguments against it are. The few I’ve read have seemed to be active fund managers scared at the prospect of losing their livelihood to a better product.
There's a "philosophical" problem to the effect of, at some point, what are you indexing? But what seems to me to be the more practical issue, and forgive me for this being half-formed, is that it seems like indexing is subtly the wrong thing to do (in a world consisting of only bad choices). The things being indexed are basically weights, for example, the relative capitalization of various stocks, based on some filtering criteria. In order to keep a fund on target with an index, they have to buy and sell according to those weights, and in principle, if the weights change, then the fund's holdings have to change accordingly.
This would seem to me to introduce problems like, if there's a sell-off of some stock so that its price drops, then its capitalization will also drop (capitalization being number of shares times price per share), which would seem to reduce its weight in the index. This should then lead to index funds having a follow-on sell-off. (And likewise for exuberant buying.) So this would suggest to me that, if index funds come to dominate stock holdings, then they should both increase volatility, and result in their holders systematically "buying high and selling low." That is, because an index fund is not the same as an index, but it's in active feedback with the index computation method.
There's also a potential issue, again depending on the level of buy-in, that one should see systematically increasing P/E ratios because of increased overall buying of stocks. That is, in the past, it was not typical for normal people to engage in regular stock purchases (which are held for decades). This would suggest lower dividend yields, which leaves one wondering whether 401ks will become what people think Social Security is, i.e., ever-rising P/Es serving as a transfer from the young to the old that requires continual workforce increases to maintain.
Though I'm not in finance, these are just the things that occur to me in thinking, how would I implement an index fund, and what might that do to the system's dynamics.
Let's take an S&P 500 index fund as an example. Vanguard or whoever does some marketing, and people decide that index funds are a good way to invest, and money flows into index funds. That's not a bubble.
The economy starts doing well, and stocks go up, and a bunch more people decide that they want to be in the stock market, and so they put their money into an S&P 500 index fund, not because they really want to be in the stock market, but because it's what's going up. That's still not a bubble.
Vanguard gets a bunch of money for its S&P 500 index fund, which it has to use to buy stock in the companies that compose the S&P 500. As a result of all the new money coming in, the stock in the S&P 500 companies go up - more than the fundamentals of their business indicate, more than stock in, say, the Russell 2000 goes up. Because the S&P 500 has gone up more, more money pours in to S&P 500 index funds. Now the S&P 500 is going up because of all the money being invested in it, and all the money is being invested in it because it's going up. That's a bubble - a positive feedback loop that has become detached from the fundamentals of the assets involved.
That's a bubble, but it doesn't really get bad until borrowed money enters the picture. If people are borrowing money to invest in S&P 500 index funds, because the funds are going up faster than the interest cost on the borrowed money, now it's a bubble that can cause serious damage when it pops, because it may damage the lender as well as the borrower.
So, for example, people were talking about bonds being in a bubble because bond prices were so high (extremely high by historical standards). That was a flight to safety, not a bubble. People were not buying bonds because they expected bond prices to keep rising, they were buying bonds because they expected other prices to keep falling.
That is not counting the systemic risk from regulation e.g. my diesel car is has lost considerable value and there is a non zero risk that I may not be allowed to drive to the city center in two years. The used car market for diesel cars tanked in Germany.
The widespread adoption of electric vehicles makes calculating the remaining value of a car difficult for any period beyond 5 years. When the buyers fully understand that and factor that into discounting future values the regional used car markets will move a step down.
which isn't that big a deal, because average people aren't buying their cars as investments (or repeatedly refinancing them). your car still gets you to work just fine even if it is worth less than you owe. and that state of affairs would resolve itself in <5 years, even if you just bought it.
> So when they repo lots of cars due to a downturn the second hand market will crash.
that would only happen if folks could no longer service the debt on their vehicles. the amount of auto loan debt isn't evidence that will happen any time soon.
folks were able to "suddenly" develop problems servicing their mortgage debt because they'd gotten adjustable rate mortgages. adjustable rate loans for automobiles are much less of a thing.
But there isn't much real growth in useful, appreciating assets. E.g. most of production capacity these days operates with ever-thinner profit margins.
Therefore money flows in a few vehicles still considered performing. Such as real estate. This creates a lot of bubbles in the absense of real growth.
This is not unlike to when a ship sinks, everybody clutters at the ever-smaller area still over water.
It feels a lot like when people talk about the national debt without putting it into context of GDP.
Totally on-board. A lot of these numbers are really silly. Comparing the # of UN recognized currencies to # of cryptocurrencies is like comparing the number of kindergarteners to the number of world-renowned physicists; it doesn't make sense.
I could spin up a cryptocurrency in about 10 minutes, I can't do that with a UN-recognized currency.
Also, I posit that a lot of the inflation in indexes relate to redistribution of wealth. When fewer people have more, they are willing to pay more for just about everything: cryptocurrencies, stocks, houses in prime areas, etc. Bubble status would require some proof points suggesting we have reached systematically unserviceable levels of an underlying fundamental.
Seriously?
Though I just checked the data: in order to get past 100% with YTD from [1] you need to go to around top 112 companies, so my complaint isn't that valid. Only 159 of the S&P 500 lost value this year and almost all of those were very modest, so there isn't as large a cancellation as you might otherwise see. Nonetheless, you can always select the top performers and point out how they're outperforming the rest. If this were an honest infographic it would compare this value (% of total gains obtained by top N performers) to previous years.
2010: 36.3
2016: 413.9
I simply cannot believe there was an 11-fold price increase on this index over this period.
Googling I cannot match either of these figures to various Canadian real estate indexes reported on the web.
That said, it's disingenuous to compare 10yr treasuries to indices comprised of bonds with a maturity of >=1yr. Issuance skews shorter term that 10 so those indices probably do, too.
It might follow that we might see localized bursting rather than a system-wide meltdown if this "bubble" pops.
Okay, does that actually mean anything unless the companies maintaining the index portfolios are at risk of going under?
Is Vanguard about to go bankrupt? (lololol)
Yeah. Well, no, that's a completely meaningless point. Even "marketcap" for Bitcoin is useless---a marketcap is the marginal price that the greatest current fool is willing to buy one thingy for, multiplied by the number of thingys.
There may be too much money in cryptocurrencies, but this chart isn't showing that.
But honestly, I've grown tired with all the doom-and-gloom oracles every year, they irritate me much more than the "everything is fine, nothing to see here" ilk.
And when a recession finally happens, you'll see all those broken watches on a daily basis in the media proclaiming they "predicted" it in 201x and nobody listened and I'll have to really hold myself not to smash the monitor...
On a side note, who (apart from the few investing) cares if cryptocurrencies are a bubble? It's currently not even a footnote to the global economy