Best attempts so far to skin Schrödinger’s cat (2016)
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> the results do strongly suggest several interesting cultural facts -- for example, that there exist, within the broad field of "quantum foundations", sub-communities with quite different views, and that (relatedly) there is probably even significantly more controversy about several fundamental issues than the already-significant amount revealed in the earlier poll.
Matt Leifer has a quantum foundations blog, and is one of the most impartial voices that I know of. He has written up his opinion on these "snapshots" [2], making the amusingly astute observation
> What we can conclude from this is that people who went to a meeting organized by Zeilinger are likely to have views similar to Zeilinger.
[0] arXiv:1303.2719
[1] arXiv:1306.4646
Sure, in this world, but in others he parties on.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdeterminism
In the last years this class of explanation had in my perception some kind of comeback because of "The Cellular Automaton Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics" by the Nobel laureate Gerard ’t Hooft:
> https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007%2F978-3-319-41285-6
If we try to find a "social" explanation why superdeterminism has its comeback, I would rather tend to the fact that progress in neuroscience gives a lot of doubt concerning the existence of free will. Superdeterminism fits quite well into this pattern, since it attempts to show that we can solve the problem of the Bell violation by simply refusing the assumption of free will.
Keep in mind, too, that "an observer" includes basically anything interacting with an otherwise closed system, not just a thinking creature.
Isn't that a bit of a philosophical debate? It could be that things are only "observed" when their cone of causality reaches a thinking creature. I thought that was half the point of the tree question in the first place.
Bohr's original idea was that until there's some interaction it's pointless to assign a specific state - you can only talk about certain probabilities.
Schrodinger's cat is not both alive and dead. We know nothing about its current state, only how probable certain outcomes are.
I was taught that Schrödinger's Cat was conceived of as intentionally absurd, but that physicists loved it because it pointed out how absurd physics was being. As the other comment said, its not just that a photon might have gone through either slit, it provably went through both.
That's the case with any cat we throw in a box and ask somebody to kill it or not based on a dice, and then we visit the place where the box is and open it...
In other words, the cat is in a certain state, but we merely don't know which.
But this doesn't capture what the Schrodinger experiment is supposed to show. Such an case wouldn't need the experimental apparatus Schrodinger describes either.
The core idea of the experiment is that quantum uncertainty is not just of the "we just don't know yet" kind, but of the fundamental "reality is inherently mixed-up and uncertain / many things actually hold at the same time until observed" nature.
The purpose of the Schrodinger's thought experiment then is to show how this fundamental quantum uncertainty (i.e. not mere not knowing: actual "fuzzy" reality) "pollutes" the macro world (in this case, a cat).
The quantum-based mechanism that releases the poison, is his trick to transfer the uncertainty of the quantum state into the macro world (the box with the cat). (Funnily, Schrodinger's purpose was to discredit this).
Those that believe it's clear that "the cat is in one state or another, we just don't know which", haven't understood the problem.
You're arguing against what one might call an objective Bayesianism stance. That is to say that our probabilities reflect our inadequate information concerning an objective (classical) state of reality for the cat.
However the phrase
> Schrodinger's cat is not both alive and dead. We know nothing about its current state, only how probable certain outcomes are
suggests a perspective in which there is not an objective (classical) state of reality for the cat. Rather, probabilities might be seen as subjective assertions about the outcome of interactions with the system. It is meaningless to talk about the cat being dead or alive before looking. This is closer to what one might call a subjective Bayesian stance.
In actual classical reality, it's not at all meaningless to ask whether the cat is "dead or alive before looking". It might be uncertain, but it's not meaningless.
One might say "I think it's alive" and another "dead" -- and they have a chance to be right even before opening the box -- we'll just need to open it and see which was right ALL ALONG.
In quantum physics, on the other hand, in most interpretations, none of them is right before opening the box. If one says "the cat must be dead", and we open the box and the cat is indeed found dead, that person, wasn't right all along. He only became right upon the opening.
That's the whole paradox that Schrodinger tried to point out as an absurd result of quantum mechanics -- but which nonetheless is accepted by physicists not as a counter-example against QM, but as something still paradoxical that actually illustrates a key point about QM.
None of those premises involve the magical power of thinking to collapse wavefunctions, because that stems from a common conflation of the Uncertainty Principle, which is a physical phenomenon, and the Observer Effect, which is a product of poor experimental design and can be controlled for.
Besides, the actual objective reality/universe could just be a set of hazy possibilities in constant flux.
And it's only what WE call "reality" (and consider it as "objective") that appears fixed -- because of how our perception/brain perceives it.
Part of this stems from early use of the words "observer" and "measurement" when describing the Uncertainty Principle. Most interpretations of quantum mechanics provide specific definitions of these words which differ from their use in common language. The Many Worlds Interpretation, for instance, has no Observer, and defines a measurement as any thermodynamicly non-reverseable process.
A dog whistle depends on the concepts of dogs and whistles, which don’t exist outwith the human semantic framework.
Historically, science has been heavily materialist but quantum physics has brought idealism back to the table.
Another thought experiment is 2 people at opposite ends of a room that contains a total vacuum. Ignoring breathing difficulties, if one spoke to the other, would he make a sound?