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Visualizing Your Ruby Heap

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Aaron’s still at it, fixing bugs in bundler, nokogiri and maybe still teaching even. I’ve stopped using MRI because the toolchain and ecosystem aren’t conducive to economical scaling or profiling like C or JVM. JRuby is much easier to profile using JMX, but it’s harder to get native extensions going and not the same. For backend, lately I’ve been more in the Elixir/Erlang, Rust and Go camps for solutions.

And its kinda Sad there aren't any Toolchain improvement on the roadmap.

When Apple had some interest in Ruby and things like RubyMotion started to appear, I thought maybe the Dylan lessons would be of inspiration, but it was in vain.

What kind of tools would you like people to build for Ruby?

Depends on what you mean by the roadmap, but TruffleRuby looks very promising. I haven't used Ruby in years, but if I did return to it TruffleRuby would be the first thing I'd explore using.

Always great write-ups from Aaron. He's done so much for Ruby, mad props.

It would be nice to see more visualizations and a bit to explain important features in them.

SideNote:

There isn't much love left for Ruby in HN anymore.

RubyKaigi, Ruby 3x3 and Method JIT, Nothing Ruby lands on the HN front page anymore. Voting are also very low.

It was Rails that brought Ruby into mainstream and popularity, it was also Rails that people left Ruby.

I've had some top-of-the-top-page successes in the last year with my Ruby project - I don't think it's that bad.

May be there are lots more people interested in TruffleRuby then MRI.

And that is because people like you, manage to optimize some voodoo Ruby metaprogramming, which many previously thought were impossible, into real fast binary with an experimental; high potential AOT compiler and toolkit called Graal and Truffle. If that is not exiting for any geeks I dont know what is.

If Ruby had an interesting topic title, I assume anyone would vote the post before even reading it. At least that is what I think majority of people would do. They dont vote on the content, they vote on the title.

So the number of vote has some relationship to how many people within the HN community are still interested in Ruby. Late last year we started to see Ruby post with enough vote for the front page, but not enough comment at all. This year there aren't even enough vote for anything Ruby to arrive on the front page.

I just started loving ruby! So it's exciting to see performance is being worked on..

It may not be popular in Hacker News but people still use Ruby for lots of different things. And even in the web development camp there's life outside Rails. Hanami has been getting a lot of traction lately.

Rails is still moving forward, though. I think it's the first major web framework (outside of the Node.js ecosystem) to offer official webpack support.

Maybe a lot of posts about Ruby now go to www.rubyflow.com...? I think this is a _really bad_ thing because by segregating all things Ruby, people on the outside perceive that Ruby is no longer relevant.

Some people say that Ruby is more popular now than ever. But if we don't see anyone talking about it on HN, it gives the impression that no thought-leaders are interested in it and that it's not worth learning.

I love Ruby, its community, and the community's values. I want to keep using Ruby for new projects, and not just for web apps. I've used SciRuby's dataframes, and I've also used Ruby to control LED lighting for side projects. But I also wish more people were doing more things with it.

When we were reviewing which stack to consolidate our development on we considered Ruby/RoR/Chef/Puppet, but all the weirdness of RVM and 32/64bit trouble, plus Python seemed to have better support on Windows, so we went with Python/Django/Ansible.

We love Ruby too, but being on one platform has been hugely helpful for us.

The startup I work for is all about Ruby, we use it for all sorts of things from microservices, CLIs, Docker scheduling and everything in between. As a newer Rubyist (and long time C++ and C# dev) I get the feeling the Ruby community is a bit stagnant. Most Gems I use seem to have peaked on GitHub activity a few years ago and are now just sort of chilling. Of course this doesn't mean the language is dying or anything, but it does feel like I'm joining a party after everyone went home.

We just had the largest ever European Ruby Conference. Ruby has fallen off the Hacker News hype list, but it's far from dying, let alone dead. At 24 years old it's simply matured.

The url kinda scared me off. I’m at work right now, and that’s not the sort of DNS lookup I want to be doing.

While I understand the hesitation, the post is certainly SFW.

Since you had to make a throwaway for that comment, I'm not convinced it's a concern you really had nor that you work at a place that can't even give you the modest amount of doubt-benefit to click the URL before calling you into the office for a chat.

This is called the ol concern trolling.

'tenderlove' is a core Ruby (and Rails) team member, BTW :)

If your workplace uses Ruby, people there should probably be familiar with Aaron Patterson (AKA tenderlove). He's been a prominent Rubyist since Rubyists had any prominence.

If your workplace can't handle a 1950s euphemism for vanilla sex, that URL is the least of your problems...

Your browser prefetch probably already did the DNS lookup anyway.

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