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Sounds like most are single moms too. In more socialistic countries we just give them other peoples money.

No, they're given some of their society's money, since they're a member of that society. That money doesn't belong to any individual, it belongs to society as a whole.

If you take money from individual A put it into a common pot and then give it to individual B then individual B is effectively getting individual A's money.

Without society, individual A would not be able to earn same higher amount of money.

> If you take money from individual A

Like I take money from the company I work for, in payment for my services...

> put it into a common pot

I put it in my bank account...

> and then give it to individual B

I buy something from Amazon, say...

> then individual B is effectively getting individual A's money.

Then Amazon is getting my companies money? Erm, no. Once it's been paid to me, it's my money. That's how payment works. When you pay for a society's services, that money is no longer yours. If you're a member of that society you still get a say in how it's spent (not always the case: you might be from another society and just paying for market access) but it's not your money any more.

The company has a choice of not employing you though and it tells you exactly what work to do. Now if you force the company to pay, then yes your example confirms my statement.

You have a choice not to use that society's services.

If I did work for the company and then they refused to pay me, then yes, I would force them to pay. I would use the law to force them to pay.

Plenty of western countries recently seem to realise that its far cheapear to take in educated immigrants rather than pay the cost of raising and educating a child. It's most certainly a trend.

Not justifying it, simply observing.

Nobody actually believes this in practice. I think we might actually make more progress by not trying to dress up collective purchasing and institutional charity as grand egalitarian gestures.

Only in America

Please don't.

Edit: actually we've had to ask you not to do this so many times that I've banned this account.

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