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I'm moderately impressed, but I wonder why they would bother. I use VS Code as a powerful text editor and occasionally as a sorta JavaScript IDE. Java and .NET have fantastic IDEs already that are extremely hard to beat.

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But what if you use JS and Java?

Your choices are (1) pay for IntelliJ Ultimate (several hundred) or (2) switch between IDEs or (3) abandon the IDE idea for both languages.

Eclipse and NetBeans still exist, and both understand JS.

I don't know if I'm the only one but I don't feel comfortable with Eclipse. It's a little bit bloated for my concern. But then again, under the hood VS Code uses eclipse as well

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think you're confusing Eclipse with Electron.

Our stack is primarily JS and Java. I pay for IntelliJ, well worth it. Plus I've been using PyCharm as well.

Curious, Javascript being a first class citizen in VS Code, what does your "real" Javascript IDE does that VS Code can't do?

Nothing. If anything, VS Code is one of the most complete Javascript IDE out there.

But I didn't interpret his comment that way. For me he wasn't saying that there's a better IDE Javascript than VS Code, but that there isn't any real IDE Javascript.

Which I tend to agree with. If we were talking about Typescript things might be different, but as far as Javascript goes, there's nothing on the level of what people are used when they talk about Java/C#/C++ IDEs.

You might want to use the same editor for your client-side JS and server-side JVM/.NET code.

That's what I thought. Eclipse for Java is still a really really good IDE which does everything. I think this is targeted towards the full stack engineers who occasionally move between IDE's.

Interesting. As a long time Visual Studio user, the clumsiness of Eclipse when forced on some projects was one of the things kept me backing away from a return to Java (back in my Java days, we used JBuilder).

IntelliJ is a much more polished experience.

I agree, but multi-team projects using Eclipse extensions made Eclipse mandatory :(.

IntelliJ is world class. Expensive, and world class.

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