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What would a python pip replacement look like?

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Having branched out from the world of Python in recent years, I've seen some interesting package managers for other languages and of course operating systems. I've got some hang ups with pip and setuptools that I imagine could be resolved with an extensible approach. For example, I imagine scoped package support (see NPM), transparent versioning (aka deterministic installs, or a better pip-tools), automatic project dependency management (again, NPM), parallel installation (yarn)...

So what would a re-think of pip look like?

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Twine[0] is the tool I've been using for PyPI archive management and Pipenv[1] is looking promising as the next iteration of pip.

Twine makes the packaging process _slightly_ easier, although setuptools is still a bit of a pain.

Pipenv handles a lot of project cruft for you: setting up a virtualenv, distinguishing dev and prod packages, locking them down and deterministic building.

[0]: https://github.com/pypa/twine

[1]: https://github.com/kennethreitz/pipenv

Oh man, how have I not known about pipenv? This addresses a huge amount of my complaints with pip. Thanks for sharing!

The downside to pipenv is that there aren't any good docker images to work with it. I've tried a few times, but I've never given enough time to learning the guts of Docker to make anything stable enough to run with it.

That shouldn't be too much of a problem. I'll have to port an image over later to use pipenv, so I'll share a gist to a minimal Dockerfile.

have you tried https://github.com/VaultVulp/pipenv-alpine/blob/master/Docke...?

I did, but something about Alpine rubs me the wrong way. I know it's probably irrational, but my gut always goes to Debian. I really can't justify it. Maybe I should give it a better chance.

Here's my Dockerfile: https://gist.github.com/dfee/388c3f270fdfc4f31aba906770f9313...

Very cool. I'll have to give it a whirl. I haven't taken a stab at a custom image in a while. Thanks!

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